Dangerous Dogs Owners

There’s actually no prohibition on owning a tiger or leopard or even a bear in Ireland. There’s international trading restrictions on buying and selling them, but there’s currently nothing on the Irish statute books that prohibits you from keeping any animal.

In all fairness, decrying restrictions on dangerous animal ownership as “a road that ends up nazi territory” was a really ridiculous thing to say.

The people on here and on other social media saying that these animals are safe are at least a little bit responsible for every one of these children getting mutilated and killed

Another poor child with life changing injuries because of these dogs, every one of those dogs should be put down but of course nothing will be enforced as usual and we'll keep seeing these horrible attacks on people into the future

Well you actually can. No problem.

From 2016:

A hit list of 37 invasive species drawn up by the European Union will be banned from being brought into the UK from today.

Among the animal culprits are raccoons, mongooses and muntjac deer

All banned by the EU, so clearly banned in Ireland too. Must be all nazis already.

I would be throwing the post like a touchdown 500 feet away in a full metal body suit 😄

" he's perfectly fine if you call him by its name."

eh… that sounds a bit ominous …what happens if you don't call him by his name!!!!😕…Hello Mary😬

……I guess… t'would be your own fault anyhow, for not training yourself around dogs….😉

As I’ve posted many times, these dogs are status symbols and used for protection and intimidation by low level criminals. You can’t do time for having one of these dogs but if the Guards search you and find a knife, you’re in serious sh1t. That’s the root of the rise of these dogs for the most part. The law needs to catch up to that.

These young lads are also groomed by the gangs into that ‘work’. Given the dog and then made to work to pay back the favour of being given the dog for hundreds of times the value of the animal.

There is no end of dog breeds to choose from. Beyond the few people who need Alsatians for search and rescue and security, nobody needs any of the other restricted breeds. Ban them all. Let’s take our parks and streets back from the scrotes.

Met a guy walking a Rottweiler with no muzzle the other day. I know you shouldn’t judge a book by its cover but one look at the owner and I immediately thought ‘inadequate, poindexter stoner in his 30’s trying to be tough with this dog. Pathetic.’

Dog Hunt for Killer Dogs

https://uk.yahoo.com/news/police-hunt-two-bulldogs-man-130028239.html

They're trainable but they need training, and work. And a surprising number of people who have one don't get that. Not that they're the only breed like that: huskies, in a different way, and those Malinois/Belgian shepherds are harder work again, I think. Working breeds "adopted" by people who can barely be arsed to take them out for a dander along the street twice a day are exactly the sort of dogs that illustrate the claim that there are no bad dogs just bad owners.

But that could potentially be solved with education and forcing people to take responsibility for their dog's behaviour: maybe obligatory dog training classes for instance, at least for dogs that are going to end up over a certain size/weight. Preferably for all, TBH, but we could start with those.

But I still think that fighting breeds are a different matter altogether. Dog fighting is banned, so the dogs bred for that have become a problem. Forced sterilisation and ban on future breeding would be a good thing IMO.

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Always knew them as Alsatians too, nothing wrong with it as they're originally from Alsace which was in Germany, Alsatian wolf dog was it's official name in the UK and here for a long time.

Had a German Shepherd as a teenager. Beautiful intelligent dogs. It's a shame they are meant to be muzzled. That's what would stop me getting one now and also because people think they are dangerous and react accordingly; which makes situations even more tense when you have one.

WTF are you talking about. I have difficulty understanding how someone who is obviously so far removed from this sort of culture can have such hard-baked, half-cocked, snobby, classist and outright dangerous opinions on it from the outside without having the most basic understanding of it. What colour is the sky in the world in which you live?

You are like a crazy person, standing at the side of the road, ranting about made-up fantasy scenarios in your head that have absolutely no basis in reality whatsoever. You might as well be talking about the inside of a Taliban tent in Fallujah, you're so unbelievably incorrect about everything.

They're beautiful dogs, that's why people get them. Not for protection and not for intimidation, the vast majority of the time. Because they're unique, gorgeous, friendly and loyal.

These dogs can cost up to a grand a pup. Nobody is giving them away, same way nobody gives away free drugs to get kids hooked. That's all a load of shite made up by parents who couldn't believe their little Johnny or Mary could end up a skaghead. Nobody is giving away free heroin in Dublin. They never were. You wanna get hooked, it'll cost ya.

You honestly sound like someone who hasn't a clue how the real world functions. It's like you get all your opinions from the red top tabloids because you're too afraid to leave your house.

I have a staffie cross that I rescued. Well-trained, obedient, would be more likely to hurt you with her tail wagging than she would with her teeth. But has the capacity to do damage to other dogs/people (which is a plus, in certain circumstances)*, so she's muzzled the vast majority of the time when she's out and about. I've had more aggro off auldones with little **** white poodle-type dogs with pink eyes than I have off anyone, including the warden, who I know by name.

Every single owner of a restricted breed I've ever met (including drug dealers with XL Bullys) has put much more effort into training their dog than every single person who owns a jack russell or other, small terrier type dog. The amount of times I've heard "he's not like that with other dogs, it must be your one that has him like that" as they fail to recall some little snarly yappy bag of bones trying to start trouble is unreal.

Every single owner of a restricted breed I've ever met personally has talked about the the training they've put them through since they were a pup BECAUSE they are restricted. I've never met a person over 50 who has ever trained their dog, ever.

*two travellers tried to take a bike from a neighbour's garden once. I came walking past with the dog, saw them holding the kids' bike and asked them what the story was……….they dropped it and legged it when they saw the dog.

Also…wtf is a poindexter?

Looked up XL bully dogs as I have only herd of about them recently. First bread in the 90's in the US and first introduced to Britain in 2014 so propably only hit Ireland after that. So a very recent dog. They live to over 10 years so noone here has probably even had one from a pub to its natural lifespan.

Given the deaths it is right that they are baning them completely. I cant see why there would be uproar given that they are such a new breed of dog.

Why are people choosing a dog breed that they have no childhood experience or history with that is only making r headlines for killing thier owners. Very bizarre.

That's a really good point, I hadn't thought of it that way. You're right, a lot of people want a dog that reminds them of the dog/dogs they grew up with - and that can include a mongrel of course. And sometimes you end up with a different breed, but it's for a reason such as not having the same lifestyle as parents (you might decide that instead of a hunting dog in your small flat in Dublin, it might be better to get a smaller/calmer dog).

But what's the thinking that would lead someone to go from that to getting an untested brand new type of dog whose main claim to fame seems to be it's developing a reputation for killing its owners or their children?

I can only think that it's for the intimidation value. Which is real.