Time for a zero refugee policy? - *Read OP for mod warnings and threadbans - updated 11/5/24*

I do think it likely than men from some cultures would be over-represented in verbal harassment. That's not for a minute to say I find it acceptable when people engage in it. In fact, I think we need to look at our harassment laws for a number of reasons. I was quite shocked to find out that certain verbal sexual harassments are quite legal in Ireland, alongside other intimidating or threatening behaviors.

I posted a report from 30 years ago, referencing Irish people, simply to show how misleading such reports could be.

I'm going to assume at this point that you didn't look much into the reports around Iraqi men, or crimes committed by people from other nationalities in Finland. I had a bit of a look myself out of curiosity and I'm even more confident now that the numbers presented aren't really anything to be concerned about.

For a start it looks to be as though the stats given represent the number of suspects for solved crimes. I noticed that there are more suspects than crimes, and I couldn't find anything in their definitions to assure me that multiple suspects could be recorded where only one had actually committed the crime, which I think could lead to an overrepresentation of foreign men in general.

Then looking at the data provided, I noticed that the numbers of suspects for each nationality outside of Finnish people per crime category were generally quite small. I saw some anomalies in the data, which was presented in the report for the years 2017 and 2018 but available for the years 2009 to 2020. It seemed as though the data peaked significantly for some non-national groups in certain years. Whether this was down to individuals committing large amounts of crimes in certain years, or certain crimes generating a large number of suspects, I couldn't tell. I am confident though that it is simply not reliable to compare a much smaller group to a larger one using the methods they have, especially where the reports are only made available for a shorter time period.

I don't know why else you think I might have shared that report but that's the reason.

I haven't misrepresented any facts on this thread. I made a small error in describing IPA arrival rates from twenty years ago but immediately acknowledged same. I've been careful to provide tons of references in my posts and have even been criticized for being pedantic in this regard.

Speaking of blatant misrepresentations can you tell me why you think it's ok to refer to people seeking asylum as 'degenerates'? You mention letting people who harass or endanger our citizen remain in this country, who does this refer to? It sounds to me like you might be talking about some kind of zero immigration policy.

I don't see any attempt to portray Irish people in a negative light.

Personally I see Irish people much the same in that sense as anyone else. Some good, some bad, everyone else just trying to get along and live their lives.

When you look at the details of the report I shared and consider the factors involved it certainly does not seem correct to say Irish people are more violent. Likewise when you look at the details of the reports on criminality by nationality in Finland and consider the factors involved it does not seem correct to say any particular nationality is more violent, or otherwise criminally inclined.

It's still not clear who you're referring to with your claims about 'degenerates'.

What exactly are you looking for here? As I understand it there are likely plenty of people who have broken the law, or might 'endanger our citizens', who come here either as IPAs, tourists or to work.

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Sickening how these corrupt individuals can just swan over to Ireland and just carry on like nothing happened

There is so much dodgy stuff going on around this, it feels like there's an industry built around this now…

You are undercounting .

A lot of these people will have families. Family reunification will give them full entitlement to any benefits going.

Very proud of Dundrum residents, they were very passionate and really came across brilliantly.

Also credit to Gript Media, only for them this news story would die away like how the msm wish it would.

Here's Mattie speaking

'We all know it'???

Well that's the issue put to bed. Forget about the research, or even getting to know people who seek asylum, the good people on an anonymous forum riddled with derogatory terms about IPAs have spoken.

What stats are those?

Looking at the figures I only see a small amount of refugees living here, and I believe only a small amount applied for amnesty. I think it's fair to assume a significant number have left.

Besides there was an anti-immigration poster on a while back giving out about people getting Irish citizenship and leaving. Do you think this person was just making up false stories about IPAs?