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What’s your most controversial opinion? **Read OP** **Mod Note in Post #3372**

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,408 ✭✭✭Vote4Squirrels


    We'd have been a Big Fella household to be fair but yes, Dev did get a lot of grief not all warranted.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,019 ✭✭✭Iscreamkone


    With good reason. Dev was a dreamer who did more harm than good for the country.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,815 ✭✭✭suvigirl


    inspired by another thread on the site, I have no issue at all with inheritance tax.

    If you get left money by someone, it's free money, you have done nothing to earn it, paying some tax is nothing to complain about when receiving free money.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,695 ✭✭✭cms88


    Republicans or whatever they like to call themselves are always very quick to call out others for things they have no issues with doing. The line ''Always the victims never your fault'' comes to mind.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,641 ✭✭✭✭whisky_galore


    Read some of Collins' musings. If you didn't know any better you'd think it was a rip off of Dev's "comely maidens".



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,019 ✭✭✭Iscreamkone


    When the Ardnacrusha project was put to Dev - he replied, “what would we need all that electricity for?”
    🤦‍♂️



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,946 ✭✭✭MayoAreMagic


    The person leaving it to you has paid tax on it already though - it is theirs and they are giving it to a person of their choosing. It is akin to someone paying for your lunch, but then you having to go in and pay again.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,815 ✭✭✭suvigirl


    All money has tax paid on it. It's not the money that pays tax, it's the person.

    If the person lives, no more tax is paid, if me (or whoever) gets money for nothing, then I have no issue paying tax on that free money.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,512 ✭✭✭Harika


    How about a compromise? the person who inherits pays the taxes and the one who gave gets the taxes back.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,946 ✭✭✭MayoAreMagic


    I think a United Ireland would be a disaster for those in the 26 counties and hope it doesnt come to pass.

    We love to talk about how the Irish built England, but we fail to recognise that if it wasnt for English jobs, and the "Queen's pound" coming back to these shores, huge tracts of western Ireland would have been completely abandoned. On that note, the worst treatment many of those people faced came about when working for Irish people in England.

    Rugby is not what it is cracked up to be and any parent encouraging their kids take it up would want to take a look at themselves. It is getting more and more dangerous.

    Athletics and many top level sports are absolutely riddled with performance enhancing drug use. The tests simply cannot track it if done in the 'correct' manner. Elite level athletes are generally highly self-oriented people who will do just about anything to win, if they think they will get away with it. All you have to do is look at how TUI's were abused in cycling to recognise the culture that is out there.

    On that note, lionel messi's medical application of human growth hormone was taken over by barcelona's doctors when he was a child. Around the same time, numerous spanish teams (barca included) were working with doctors who were found to have been running doping programmes. The spanish government took the decision to destroy all the evidence without disclosing any of it. I think messi was probably doped in a similar way they used TUI's in cycling, and that a pile of top spanish footballers were protected by their government.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,563 ✭✭✭✭castletownman


    You know summer is drawing to a close. I see its the annual mammy's complaining about lack of school bus services for their children, certainly on local radio anyway.

    If getting the kids to school is such a problem, surely a few of the parents could band together and arrange a private mini-bus or whatever. We did it 20 years ago when availability wasn't the same as it is now. Easier to take to the airwaves to complain I suppose.

    If its not that, they are complaining about the cost of uniforms/school books. But when you break it down, and budget appropriately, its not that big an expense, especially if you are willing to forego your own luxury purchases (online shopping and the likes) for even a week.

    All want, want, want and no resolve through adversity any more.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,634 ✭✭✭✭El_Duderino 09


    Absolutely. We pay lip service to the idea of meritocracy, and inheritance is the exact opposite of that. It's inheriting someone else's merit.

    We wouldn't accept someone saying their mother had a PhD, so they can inherit a masters degree. Or their dad worked for 40 years as a plumber so they can inherit 20 years plumbing experience.

    Some people work 30 years to own a house and others just inherit a house. It's a bonkers distortion of meritocracy.

    If you're enthusiastic about inheritance, that's fine, but you need to accept you're also opposed to actual meritocracy.

    Post edited by El_Duderino 09 on


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,641 ✭✭✭✭whisky_galore


    It's very funny when people who's only knowledge of Collins is from a highly inaccurate movie, give Big Mick 21st century values and saying he'd save us all from the clutches of the Catholic church if only he had lived.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,019 ✭✭✭Iscreamkone


    Collins could hardly have done worse than Dev with regard to the church??

    Nobody should be allowed to stay in power as long as Dev (21 years as Taoiseach, 14 years as President). This is not good for any country as mistakes get multiplied over time.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,641 ✭✭✭✭whisky_galore


    He couldn't have done any better.

    Mick was a good Catholic boy who said his prayers too. If he lived it would have been him kissing arch bishop's rings, not Dev.

    The last laundries closed in the oh-so-enlightened 1990s, long after Dev shuffled off.

    Dev wasn't a dictator who seized power. People voted for Dev as President. Democracy is a bitch, isn't it?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,734 ✭✭✭✭Princess Consuela Bananahammock


    It's more akin to having to pay for tax on the gifts at your own wedding.

    Everything I don't like is either woke or fascist - possibly both - pick one.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,695 ✭✭✭cms88


    As i've said before parents love nothing more than complaining about being parents. They chose to have kids yet many will make out they were somehow forced into it.



  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 5,190 Mod ✭✭✭✭spacetweek


    I'd nearly suspect the scrote got mixed up between The Big Fella and Dev.



  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 5,190 Mod ✭✭✭✭spacetweek


    I have a kid, I complain about it sometimes but it's just blowing off steam. Parents all love being parents really. It's very hard work but very rewarding.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,357 ✭✭✭✭NIMAN


    Yip, that time of the year when we get media reports telling us the average cost to send a child back to school is something daft like €800 to €1000.

    I have sent several kids back to school many times, and it costs a fraction of that.

    But hey, why let the truth get in the way of a rant on Liveline or CB Today.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,627 ✭✭✭kowloonkev


    It must come as a bit of a shock to parents actually having to pay for something though.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,634 ✭✭✭✭El_Duderino 09


    Ah it does, yeah. Once parental leave was over and sent the child to nursery, a 1,200 monthly bill would leave a big hole in anyone's finances. Big adjustment for anyone who doesn't have 1,200 a month to spare, wouldn't you think?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,019 ✭✭✭Iscreamkone


    But surely everyone knows that childcare is expensive. If you can’t afford to have children then maybe do not have them.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,634 ✭✭✭✭El_Duderino 09


    Obviously. And when a 1,200 a month fee kicks in, you'd obviously notice it.

    It would be unusual to never talk about. You notice how much of your wage goes straight out on childcare so you can work. It also makes you wo for how a single parent could make it work unless they were on mega money.

    It's not that big a deal but I'm amused that anyone would be cross about a parent mentioning a new 1,200 monthy cost.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,725 ✭✭✭tinytobe


    Most controversial opinion of mine especially when in Ireland:

    I strongly dislike Palestinian flags in public, especially if waved by Irish people wrongly believing that anything Palestinian is good, and anything Israeli is bad.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,036 ✭✭✭ShagNastii


    I’d echo this. Went to All Together Now and they were all over the shop. I personally think a lot of it is a fashion statement. A bit like the REPEAL jumpers. For a while there it helped me avoid people I just wouldn’t like. And I strongly supported repealing the 8th.

    I’m not sure many agree but I’m sickened that politics have become so overt in the modern day. Day-to-day I really couldn’t care about somebodies politics and I’ll happily keep it private to them.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,598 ✭✭✭pgj2015


    Usually flown by the local nut jobs, unemployed trouble makers, do-gooders, attention seekers etc



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,725 ✭✭✭tinytobe


    Out of tolerance ( certainly not out of personal opinion ) I would find it acceptable if the Palestinian flag was flown on a protest in vicinity or near the Israeli embassy. But in Ireland having a Palestinian flag seems to be fashionable with anybody who thinks that they "care" and are on the "side of the good ones".

    To me Palestinian flags symbolize terror, kidnapping, murder and repeated rape. Anybody flying a Palestinian flag would symbolize to me that they support all that injustice and inhumanity.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,952 ✭✭✭Greyfox


    The people I know who waive the Palestinian flag do so because they are of the opinion that mass murder of women and children should not be tolerated by the Western world.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,725 ✭✭✭tinytobe


    I have exactly the oposite opinion. Hamas and Hezbolah are terrorist in my view, and they terrorised Israel. Should that be tolerated by the Western world?

    And historically it's been the Jews who were hunted town, ( Nazis, Reichskristallnacht, ) so naturally they have a right to fight back.

    Also, our christian culture is closer alligned with Jewish, rather than with Arabs.

    The Jewish faith is also way older than the Muslim faith.

    But again, it's a controversial opinion.

    I was just utterly shocked that so many Irish take sides with the Palestinians. Germans or Austrians would never dare to do that, at least not to that great extent, considering the history.

    And, also, Ireland is always proud of neutrality. What about neutrality in this conflict? Apparently also a no go?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,061 ✭✭✭✭Strumms


    Ireland is only militarily neutral. And at that it’s only a historical government stance. It’s not written into our constitution. Historically we’ve been politically aligned to many different sides of particular conflicts. Look at Ukraine vs Russia for example… even then beyond politically our armed forces have provided some weapons training to Ukranian forces… so we pick and choose our relationship with neutrality.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,952 ✭✭✭Greyfox


    What about the thousands of innocent women and children that neither side seems to care about? Nobody in Ireland supports Hamas or Hezbolah but I'm sure you already know this. Irish people are proud of our neutrality which is why we are disgusted with everyone who kills innocent people. It's not ok for terrorists to murder children and its not ok for a countries army to kill children. Irish people simply want peace.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,634 ✭✭✭✭El_Duderino 09


    I have never waved a Palestinian flag. But if I did it would be because of the reason above and also because I'm not keen on ethnic cleaning.

    I don't excuse any of the violence committed by Palestinians. I do however acknowledge that violent resistance* is a natural consequence of prolonged oppression. We all understand that fact when we look at Irish history and see they did a violent rebellion every 30-50 years.

    *violent resistance doesn't have to extend to non-military people and targets. If the Palestinians only attacked isreali military targets and only killed military personnel, I wouldn't have a problem with it. Nor would I have a problem with isreali military killing Palestinian military (which gets tricky because isreal control Palestinian affairs and explicitly forbid them having a military).



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,641 ✭✭✭✭whisky_galore


    "Also, our christian culture is closer alligned with Jewish, rather than with Arabs.

    The Jewish faith is also way older than the Muslim faith."

    I don't see what that has to do with anything, esp as Christians have been hammering Jews for thousands of years for killing Jesus (also a Jew)



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,293 ✭✭✭Cordell


    Oversimplified, Judaism is the Abrahamic OG, Christianity and Islam are reforms and evolution. One guided by a pacifist carpenter, the other, well, we all know by whom.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,641 ✭✭✭✭whisky_galore


    Funny that Christianity wasn't awfully pacifist though. Crusades were murdery enough.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,293 ✭✭✭Cordell


    Yes, imagine the other one, how can that even dream of being pacifist.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,947 ✭✭✭growleaves




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,019 ✭✭✭Iscreamkone


    The people who wave Palestinian flags are supporters of terrorists.

    The Palestinians could stop the war tomorrow if they gave back the Israeli hostages and Hamas, surrendered.

    I’m not a Jew but I support Israel’s right to exist and defend itself against people who want to eliminate Israel and kill all the Jews.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,953 ✭✭✭✭cj maxx


    The right to exist is one thing , the right to occupy and kill is another



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,019 ✭✭✭Iscreamkone


    The war could end if Hamas surrendered. Why don’t the Palestinian sympathisers call for Hamas to surrender?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,953 ✭✭✭✭cj maxx


    I think they should , but Israel doesn’t get to launch a genocidal war because of one terrorist attack



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,019 ✭✭✭Iscreamkone


    Maybe Israel should write them a letter asking them to be nicer in future. That should do it.

    Not everyone agrees with the genocide propaganda being spouted.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,953 ✭✭✭✭cj maxx


    When Israel targets schools with displaced people taking shelter , there’s only one answer



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,695 ✭✭✭cms88


    Something that's interesting is people are very fact to say they support Palestinian and not Hamas fair enough. Yet according to the same people everyone from Israel is branded the same and should be boycotted etc



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,219 ✭✭✭✭Quazzie


    The difference is people are supporting Palestine (the country) and not supporting Hamas (the terrorist organisation) and they are against Israel (the country) so that's why they want to boycott all Israel. A terrorist organisation is attacking Israel, almost everyone agrees that's wrong, but they act within their own set of rules. Israel as a country is performing genocide on a neighbouring country, and as a country themselves they should be held to a higher standard than a terrorist organisation.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,765 ✭✭✭✭Deja Boo


    Agreed… and Israels use of white phosphorous missiles (restricted under international humanitarian law), targeting civilian populations, early in the conflict, is another example of utter inhumanity.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,634 ✭✭✭✭El_Duderino 09


    I also agree with isreals right to exist and defend itself.

    The controversial question is: does Palestine have thd right to exist and who should defend it?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,952 ✭✭✭Greyfox


    This post clearly shows that you know nothing about the conflict. If a terrorist takes control of a school obviously the teachers that work in the school are just as bad as the terrorist, maybe the children are terrorists just for existing.

    Hamas attacked Israel not Palestine, its important to be aware of the actual basic facts before you discuss a topic. Yes Israel have every right to exist and defend itself, but they do not have a right to target locations full of children.



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