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Paying for seats on Ryanair

  • 19-08-2024 6:43am
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 414 ✭✭


    I have not traveled with them for a while. I used not to pay for a seat and they would pick one for me when I was confirming the flight.

    This time I had to pay for a seat. Is this new or did I miss something ?



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,703 ✭✭✭Former Former Former


    You can elect not to pay for a seat and they will allocate you one when you check in.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 414 ✭✭The Ging and I


    I looked again and found it , thanks



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 351 ✭✭Banzai600


    just as an fyi to people re ryanair and seating….

    i have now heard THREE separate stories from ppl who dont know each other. bear in mind these ppl were not travelling alone either.

    these people travelling with friends had NOT paid for their seating on the return flights to DUBLIN, Italy and Spain, but had to fight tooth and nail to get on the planes as they were "full" coming home. funnily enough in two cases the ppl were told, ryanair hedge their bets you wont turn up if you dont pay for seats ?? somehow i find this extraordinary. in one case they had to keep seats for staff members to return home ?

    its all a bit odd, but these are the facts that im aware of.

    last few times we have flown with ryanair we havent paid for seats. I am wondering is this another sneaky ploy from ryanair to get ppl to pay for their seats?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 71,113 ✭✭✭✭L1011


    Overbooking. Normal airline practice. If everyone paid for seat selection, they'd still do it.

    Ryanair insist they don't do it; but the evidence is there that they do.

    There can also be a last minute swap from a 197 seat MAX8200 to a 189 seat NG leaving up to 8 people over the number of seats the plane has.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,031 ✭✭✭SteM


    Why do you find it extraordinary? Airlines have been doing this for years.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,225 ✭✭✭✭Dial Hard


    Almost all airlines overbook. One of my travelling party was bumped coming back from a trip at the weekend. She hadn't booked a seat but she also left it til the very last minute to check in online for the flight, and I suspect that had more to do with it than anything.

    Fwiw, they did ask all staff travellers on the flight to disembark, so they were genuinely doing their best to get paying customers on board.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 160 ✭✭watchclocker


    I think you're right about it being when you check in.

    You used to be able to sort of cheat the seat system by leaving it until last minute and getting a premium seat that had not been sold but they closed that loophole and you're more likely to get a crappy seat (or none) if you leave it late.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,096 ✭✭✭✭elperello


    You are paying for a seat when you complete the payment and book the flight

    You are just not paying extra in order to get a specific seat.



  • Moderators, Education Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 10,969 Mod ✭✭✭✭artanevilla


    Standard practice in aviation since time immemorial.

    Ryanair are the best at it and rarely get it wrong.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,514 ✭✭✭TheChizler


    Standard practice to overbook but is it a new thing that you're more likely to be bumped if you haven't paid to select a seat?



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  • Moderators, Education Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 10,969 Mod ✭✭✭✭artanevilla


    Paying to select a seat in the first place is new I suppose.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,029 ✭✭✭✭HeidiHeidi


    That's been a Ryanair thing for a long as I can remember.

    Nothing new about it.

    A pal was being offered incentives to re-route coming home on TAP a couple of weeks ago, they had clearly overbooked the flight.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 647 ✭✭✭thebronze14


    Yeah never experienced it with Ryanair, have with other airlines. You be well remunerated generally if it happens



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,381 ✭✭✭CPTM


    I knew this was standard in the US but I've never witnessed it in Europe so I thought we were protected from it somehow.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,031 ✭✭✭SteM


    It could be expensive enough for Ryanair to do considering they'd have to pay compensation. I assume they have an algorithim in place that tells them how much they could make by over selling and hoping people don't show vs how much they could loose in compensation. It could be worth their while mainly in high season.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,839 ✭✭✭endofrainbow


    I think it highly unlikely that you would be bumped for not paying for a seat. The compensation for idb would greatly outweigh the price of a seat.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 351 ✭✭Banzai600


    it happened as i posted above, i have no reason to throw ryanair under the bus, but they have given ppl fear and anxiety with their behavior, and this is just another ploy to get ppl to pay for seats IMO. Bully tactics.

    and it kills me to say i booked flights with them two weeks ago, aer lingus just too dear for same route - and we paid for the seats and privilege to breathe on the plane.

    Post edited by Banzai600 on


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,073 ✭✭✭✭bnt


    Which means you improve your chances of a good seat by checking in early, like 1 min after check-in opens 24h before the flight.

    You are the type of what the age is searching for, and what it is afraid it has found. I am so glad that you have never done anything, never carved a statue, or painted a picture, or produced anything outside of yourself! Life has been your art. You have set yourself to music. Your days are your sonnets.

    ―Oscar Wilde predicting Social Media, in The Picture of Dorian Gray



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,514 ✭✭✭TheChizler


    My go to strategy has been to check in at late as possible without picking a seat, I get an exit seat more often than not.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,949 ✭✭✭✭suvigirl


    I can honestly say I have never felt any fear of anxiety when travelling with Ryanair. I never pay for a seat, just take my chances, more often then not I have gotten an exit row or a window seat.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,514 ✭✭✭TheChizler


    Maybe we shouldn't be publicly commenting on our strategies 😁



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 664 ✭✭✭Gary_dunne


    Best strategy is check in whenever, be the very last person on the plane and usually you've a pick of a few good seats to choose from.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 244 ✭✭Hontou


    I've a better strategy if you want to sit beside your travel companion but not pay for seats. Check in last minute, but click on book a seat first so you can see what seats are still avaiable together last minute. Write down the good ones, if any. Then go back and choose random seat selection. Get on the plane last and confidently sit on the empty good seats that you know are likely still free. This strategy has worked for me 80% of the time. The only time it doesn't work is when the plane is full. In that case, you have a high chance of getting at least one good exit seat anyway.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,514 ✭✭✭TheChizler


    This is the key piece of the jigsaw that I'm missing, thank you, I'll try Saturday



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,947 ✭✭✭✭phog


    In a slightly different story but Ryanair and seating related. I was flying back to Dublin once, possibly from Germany, and as advised on our tickets we entered from the end of the plane, when I got to the top of the steps there was a lady there with bags and holding a baby, I offered to take her bags or hold the baby as she made her way to here seat/s, she said "it's ok, I'm waiting for them to sort me out, I'm in Row !! and that doesn't exist on this plane" Before take off I saw that she was sorted but I'm not sure if everyone who had booked that row got on the plane.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 351 ✭✭Banzai600


    i dont suffer anxiety or the fear, but a lot of ppl seem to based on what comes up in conversations.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 220 ✭✭manshay


    I've flown BHX-DUB with Ryanair, they had to switch planes and our row didn't exist, they just got us to seat in a spare seat.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,891 ✭✭✭✭ted1


    my wife and child were offered €400 by Aer Lingus last Friday ti fly on a later flight from Faro to Dublin. They refused as they were on the way home to attend a Niall Horan concert
    it’s not just a Ryanair thing



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 84,707 ✭✭✭✭Atlantic Dawn
    M


    Yes between the Max and the non there's about 8 rows of seats that if you are paying for a seat you should avoid as they conflict on each plane. For example the Max has 3 extra rows at the back and then the emergency exit/extra legroom rows are completely different rows which on the Max has a window seat removed and a 'toy' seat fitted behind where it should be that any adult who eats 3 square meals a day will struggle to squeeze in to.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 351 ✭✭Banzai600


    the point i made was ppl being told there was no laternate until next available flight…..Aer lingus offering upfront is far from what ryanair did when they gave ppl ultimatums.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,920 ✭✭✭munchkin_utd


    just to go back to this, Ryanair and other websites sometimes have the Skip or similar button super small or as plain text etc that you wouldnt intuitively click on but rather "choose" the paid option thinking its the only way to proceed with the booking.

    I'd be similar later on for insurance and car hire.

    Ryanair overbooking/ having less capacity than anticipated due to last minute aircraft change is a different issue. I would have far more worrys about the likes of Lufthansa or KLM overbooking than Ryanair as they will have people missing connections at hubs getting re-allocated to your flight, and if you havent a boarding pass/ you arent checked in in good time, its you and not them that ends up on the waiting list/ standby. Ryanair on the other hand is point to point and doesnt shunt people from one flight to another like legacy airlines do.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,094 ✭✭✭Ohmeha


    Yes if your Ryanair flight is absolutely essential I think you need to check-in early to cover any overbooking risk. Myself and about a dozen others got pulled aside by Ryanair for an overbooked final days flight a year ago, I checked in minutes before the 2 hour deadline and based on other recent reports late check-in seems to be a criteria for their algorithm selections on overbooked flights. I had an important work meeting the following morning which I stated to the check-in staff about needing to make the flight and everyone else seemed to be ok with missing the flight so luckily I got the final seat right up at the front with loads of leg space



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,110 ✭✭✭xpletiv


    Never, ever pay for your seat. Absolute scheme from Ryanair and all other airlines. Apart from the exit rows or emergency rows, they're all the same, you're all going to the same place. They try to scare you about families not being together but they have to by law put you together.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,668 ✭✭✭Gooser14


    What law is that? Can you provide a link please.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,604 ✭✭✭✭ArmaniJeanss


    I don't think it's 'the law' as such, but it's highly recommended for safety purposes when the family includes young children. In an emergency situation/evacuation (obviously an extreme rarity) you'd want the parent there to help the 10 year-old with their oxygen mask, and you also wouldn't want the parent to be travelling half the plane to retrieve the child.

    This is the UK government guidelines on it, but I expect Irl/EU would be similar.

    Airline seating allocations | Civil Aviation Authority (caa.co.uk)

    So Ryanair have it as their policy that parents must book (and pay for seats) when travelling with U12s. But if they choose not to book seats, the question then it if Ryanair should attempt to follow the CAA guidelines and put the family together. Potentially moving people who have paid for their desired seat. Alternatives being not let them on the flight, or have them separated for the flight and then possibly face tough questions from the CAA.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,077 ✭✭✭3DataModem


    There is a Ryanair and a BA route I use for work that regularly overbooks. I have taken to checking a bag when I travel, as it means I "never" get bumped due to overbooking.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,291 ✭✭✭naughtysmurf


    it’s more of a policy I’d say, flying back from Alicante with Ryanair a family of adults & kids were obviously randomly allocated seats at some point & they got someone to move from their seat to allow a parent sit with two of the kids, they said they weren’t taking off until they were with a parent



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