"Green" policies are destroying this country

Politically speaking we have the concept of Citizen Assembly

Perhaps an assembly could be convened and populated with Scientists and Engineers from across Irish industry and academia

These lads and lassies can then discuss and put forward a few proposals (including concrete timelines and costs) for several scenarios:

• do nothing scenario
• offshore wind scenario, it be nice to get costs for this, and glaring holes raised in this thread addressed
• Nuclear scenario
• A mix of above
• Something else, some blue sky thinking approach no one yet thought off

Instead we just have vague and fluffy hand waving from Eamon Ryan and representatives of the wind lobby who are already raking in massive profits at expensive of Irish taxpayers who have the highest electricity costs in world

90% of food needs to be imported … People of colour countries are vastly overpopulated as they cannot support themselves. If they could there would be no need for UN programs to do such basics as feed children.

"People of colour countries"? Jeebus!

It would help if you tried to provide evidential support along with these claims. Sub-Saharan Africa is a net exporter of food, except for four countries (Nigeria, Somalia, DR Congo and Angola) which are either resource rich or recent conflict zones, or both. While SSA faces challenges, the picture is greatly improved since 2000.

Overpopulation is simply not a factor in most African countries. Africa contains 60% of the world's not-yet-cultivated arable land. It could easily be self-sufficient in food unlike the UK (which imports 40% of its food) or Saudi Arabia (which imports 80%).

That tweet is something else

Tho it shows the anti science and engineering Greens are already laying the groundwork to blame the missed targets on technology sector which pays an incredible amounts of money for worlds most expensive electricity AND **** ton in taxes for daft green schemes AND allows people to work from home

Who needs tech when the aim is to use stone tools and live in caves, close to nature and all that

makes an interesting point that China etc can cause serious electric grid problems in countries like Ireland

My own solar panels at home have a Chinese inverter and app where the data goes to China of production and is connected to the internet

Yet another green policy time bomb waiting to explode

It’s ok we don’t share the same planet as China so Global warming doesn’t apply to them /s 😃

Ive been an engineer for 11 years. The do nothing option is just as likely to change (or stop changing) the climate as doing everything is. Honest to goodness, it takes some amount of arrogance by environmentalists and those who claim to be "doing their bit for the climate" that any action on their part is actually going to change the weather...

With regard to the wind energy, we have literally destroyed thousands of acres of ecosystems putting those godawful things up. They make what was once pristine untouched nature look like an industrial wasteland. What's worse is we aren't even using the energy ourselves! We're sending it to the UK to appease the even larger green alarmist agenda over there. Then we get the tut tut from the highly dubious and questionable NGOs such as "Friends of the Earth" telling us how unsustainable it is to buy in unclean energy in the way that we do and how we should build even more windfarms to meet our demand!! Preposterous.

Worst thing is not the conduct of government and environmentalists, it's us, the dumbasses, who are letting them get away with it!

DW like RTE & the BBC is in the thrall of eNGOs when it comes the environment. In that presentation they are promoting Greenpeace opinion which is that hydrogen economy is a ruse to keep fossil fuel energy companies in business. They are not necessarily wrong on that. "Green hydrogen" is an idea that has been floating around since the early part of the 20th century, even a pioneering 20th century German political party (sic) whose environmental policies have been widely adopted today, had it in their publications. Same limits recognized then as now. Economics aside like many programs promoting "green hydrogen", the DW presentation ignores one essential raw material: ultra pure water.

Anyone claiming grants for AD plants will be allowed export the gas. Whatever % is grant aided equates to the % of gas that must be used in the Irish market. Everything else can be exported. NI and the UK are the only markets available currently. AD operators can also avail of "green certificates" which can also be traded.

This is starting to look dodgy as fudge now too

Probably the same. Try this link -

https://www.farmersjournal.ie/news/news/80-of-grant-aided-biomethane-allowed-to-be-exported-831673