LSL to charge for the App

Having access to only 1/3 of the marts is a major issue. I had a quick look at their herd app and it looks crap.

This is a very tricky time now for LSL. They are really backed into a corner now. If the other 2 platforms hold the line of no charge they could force LSL to fold or drop the sub model. It seems that they are in need of cash. They options they have are either charge the marts or charge the farmer. The marts are a limited pool in numbers and charging the farmer has seemed to backfire.

It a real crux for them in the next 2 months. Will sufficient farmers sign up, if not will Marts stay with LSL. I would think the other 2 are putting the feelers out to LSL marts at the moment to coax a changeover of platform

Cameras are all the same and belong to the mart. It probably the quality of the feed. However the quality of the Cameras can vary and there positioning is important. As well its important that the ring man moves them arounds. The lad Mauty has is the best in the country. I would say he must put up 50k+ steps on a mart day

Imagine if Boards.ie introduced a subscription?

I'll get my coat..

They have one (or at least had one), if you paid it, there were no ads in feeds and some other perks.

It's nice and handt to be able to look back at the video's on LSL. I've previously had issues with animals that we bought online where it wasn't announced in two cases they were freemartins and in another case a cull cow was sold before the withdrawal date for antibiotics.

Edit to add - neither of the freemartins were registered as "multiple" births on Agfood.

You don't have to announce them as freemartins unless they're selling in a breeding sale but the correct thing to do at all times is announce them as freemartins

The mart that I bought them through still has a sign on the wall which included similar words "Heifers are considered correct and right for breeding"

AFAIK, the cull cow ring is the only ring that you don't have any comeback with regards to them been in calf/or not, potential breeding etc except for antibiotic withdrawals.

Anything that goes through any heifer or heifer weanling ring are assumed not in calf but suitable for breeding unless announced otherwise. Any heifer that turns out in calf or not suitable for breeding for any reason other than one which could not be known by the farmer the farmer is liable for.

You are correct about the incalf/ not incalf rules but in any ordinary general cattle sale their is no guarantee that any heifer is suitable for breeding unless the sale is a special breeding sale or she is declared as correct and right for breeding

I've had the misfortune of being stung enough times buying heifers for breeding that weren't suitable that I looked into it with 2 mart managers and a solicitor. The answer was that if a farmer could reasonably foresee a reason why the heifer would not be suitable for breeding he is liable for costs if it is not disclosed during a sale. I've never followed up on it myself and was only enquiring out of curiosity/ frustration but if I'm ever selling a freemartin I'll announce it. I've also sold heifers as suitable for breeding when I've had them scanned but only as a selling pitch for a fancy heifer.

What I do if I've found an issue is announce it. I'm not going to go out to screw anyone especially seeing as most lads out buying the heifers are just an average farmer like myself trying to make a few pound.

See LSL are back tracking a bit more:

According to LSL Auctions: “This will ensure all clients of each mart (buyers and sellers) are not affected in any way by the introduction of the membership.

“Users who are not clients of an auction/mart will be required to be member of LSL to view that specific location.”

I almost feel sorry for them now.

It was going to happen once one of the others confirmed they would not charge. Don't worry the seed has been set they will all take more from the marts which will be passed to the buyer and seller whether on line or not. Great little ireland.