The decline of SF?

The point that was made was that SF attracts far more of the people who believe such rubbish than any other party, because SF plays up to that agenda. The facts back up that opinion. Your response is deflective nonsense and doesn't in any meaningful way refute the point made. It would get zero points in a primary school debating competition.

38% for Q1 and 25% for Q2.

You avoiding the question?
How did FG and FF 'harvest' and keep happy their percentages of conspiracy believers?

Had you looked with an unjaundiced eye you would see that survey shows they all have a percentage who believe this stuff.

Therefore the only time it becomes a major problem is when it influences party policy or actions and I don't see that happening in any of the major parties.

This thread is dredging the barrel for ansty tat titting again.

When the elections called SF will solidify and grow in the polls and will certainly improve on 2020.

Voters will do different things in polling booths than what they were asked about 6 months earlier when confused and riled up by racists,it concentrates minds.

SF will reel in the lapsed shinners.

That is my opinion on what will happen.

There are questions for all obviously, if you are going to start asking questions.

I have and my answer is, if these theories begin to manifest themselves in policy then it is time to worry. Across all parties I would imagine they are beliefs held mostly by the young and that would explain why it is higher in SF, given they attract a younger vote during the period.

No, the figures show that there is a baseline number across all parties, but that one party - SF - stands alone and different from the others. The questions are for SF.

It's your opinion, that's fine. Have you any basis for that opinion or hunch?

Ever meet any of the 'bald lads' colleagues on the council locally? Hughie 'Gimme loads of sterling' and your man that fancied himself with a broken glass? You'll find all sorts in political parties would be my anecdotal experience.

Charlie Flanagan was their biggest vote getter.

I compare parties before I vote for them. Isn’t what you and the survey are doing ‘comparing’?
Crimnals? The major parties all had their share.

Conspiracy theorists, they all have their share particularly among their younger support. And at the time of the survey SF had the majority of the you g’s support.

Eejits? Well now I think they all certainly have a share of them too.

The 'abstentions' tells you all you need to know. Support for Gemma withdrew gradually as it became apparent how far she was going on the conspiracy trail. She still had some currency in journalism at that time. Her investigative journalism blew the lid of abuse in a Dublin Rugby school in 2018 for instance. Not denying it disappeared fairly quickly from that time on but her credibility didn't disappear overnight.

SF like to keep it in the family

As do your party blanch. Catherine Martin and her husband?

Pippa Hackett , co-opted her hubbie into her seat, her son tried to get into the family biz too.
Not to mention FG, Olwyn Enright, daughter of Senator T. Enwright and married to TD Joe McHugh.

Then you have the Kitts, and the Lenihan family dynasty? Des O'Malley and his daughter? Cathal Coughlan and his daughter Mary? The Harte and Blaney dynasties?

On it goes but SF are 'exceptional' as per usual.

I've seen some of his hate stuff on Twitter, seems obsessed with immigration. He is one of the "I'm not a racist, but…." crowd.

"Because of the UK's Rwanda Bill over 80% of so-called Asylum Seekers are now coming here from the UK, a safe country. We can refuse these asylum applicants, the vast majority are economic migrants and stop putting them up in hotels with food and free medical cards. Insanity."

This is one of his tweets from earlier this year. Dog-whistling to the racists. Clear example of the "I'm not a racist, but…" Could also be classified as one of the "I'm not far-right, but……."

No need to deflect to what others are saying, whether that be councillors, TDs or Ministers. The question is whether, you, as a SF supporter and apologist, are happy with this type of dog-whistling. If you have no problem with it, fair enough, but you wouldn't see this type of stuff from real left-wing parties like Labour, SDs or the Greens.

I no longer use Twitter, but when I did SF had some proper fruitcakes on it. A lad named Sean Marlow, a lad running for the council named Enda Fanning, that Browne lad from Tipperary, the lad from Leitrim with a bad handle on basic maths etc.

They would want to be decommissioned to be honest.

And another one:

Correct,there isn't

Threads like this one and the FG one are only being bumped now by the rival 3 or 4 posters one upping each other,making a mockery of this once venerable discussion forum and worse immune to how silly they look

Also not alone is that tweet not abusive,the tweet is only speaking the truth

Most of these migrants are schooled now to say they're from Gaza having either come via the north or flushed their passport down the loo of a ryanair plane from luton

It's 'dogwhistling' because you need an excuse to ignore concerns. As said, this was the policy of government a year ago. It's now wholly redundant as finally Harris has been forced into talking about action even if it is as yet unclear if action has been taken.

you really shouldnt talk about people you dont know. Aiden's a decent fella and Laois people vote for him at every election he enters. Boards really needs to come down on this bullshitting - thats a comment and viewpoint, not an attempt at backseat moderating btw. There's lads in this thread that could get themselves sued for spreading false information and slander

I have quoted directly from his own tweet and explained why I believe it is tantamount to dog-whistling racism, pointing out where it is inaccurate and misleading.

i dont care what you believe., i know the man and you are very very incorrect.

I'm neither wrong about the tweet which is fair comment and I'm not wrong about the passports being flushed down the toilet on Ryanair planes either

O'Leary has documented that latter one as he is being fined for passengers that had a passport when boarding but have none once they arrive at the immigration counter

A little common sense in posting here would be handy rather than a rush to tit tatting

Fair debate like

They can be refused if they're from a safe country

At least from late next year,all 'legal' non EU citizen entrants to the EU will be finger printed meaning if they choose the tourist route in,they'll be caught

Slowly but surely this migration problem is being confronted

If we ranted on threads about the tweets of councillors the site would grind to a halt

Or he is orchestrating a government collapse? Seems to be very vocal about others around the cabinet table and issuing orders.

I wonder if the leadership are still thinking about replacing Mary Lou, or are they going to stick with her? She’d want to sharpen up on her interview and debating skills for a start. Being slightly smug and condescending as she peers out over her glasses isn’t going to cut it anymore.

Probably a bit late to replace her at this stage. Replace her with whom as well? Shouter Doherty. Nah.

The electorate SF are after aren't over analyising the skills of T.D's in the way you are,their target audience will hear them on not letting single male blacks into their estates and the stupid zoning row is an open goal,a sign of things to come with government parties cohesion imploding