Time for a zero refugee policy? - *Read OP for mod warnings and threadbans - updated 11/5/24*

Thankfully those lovable Palestinians have never caused any problems for host countries in the past.

Jordan probably very sad to see the back of them.

Doesn't it feel good to know your tax euros are going to spread the same lies, disinformation, misinformation, and obfuscation that he'd accuse the Far Right of spreading?

Why do we have a government at all. I ask myself a lot of the time. Theyre such a useless shower.

I believe, at this point, one would struggle to find genuine refugees, or people fleeing persecution in the traditional sense, among the ever growing mass of IPAs.

From Michael McDowell to the Department of Justice itself, it has been recognised and stated that the IPA system has become a popular means whereby economic migrants can gain a foothold in the State and (eventually) access fully the economy and generous social welfare system of the country without significant checks or challenge.

Crucially, the current practice around IPAs also generates mountains of cash and influence for native capitalists and NGOs in what amounts to a huge, lucrative system of state-sponsored human trafficking.

Brilliant contribution.

Plenty of options to try, Automatic rejection of claim and a plane ticket home. Work with the UK government to prevent the abuse of the CTA. Much cheaper than building a wall.

But to be honest, given your stance on all of this I am surprised you are not out demanding we start running a free ferry service from the UK.

Why are there no threads on the sky being blue? If a thread on overpopulation is that important to you. You are more than welcome to start one.

The thread is about refugee policy,not general migration. Read the mod updates on the 1st post if you need further clarification.

If you wish to discuss Ireland's emigration patterns/problems, again, open a thread. Kindly stop conflating legal migration with asylum seeking/illegal economic migration.

Virtually no one (yes, there are a few loopers) blames migrants for Ireland's problems. Before you bring it up, yes we know migrants did not cause the housing crisis. If you are bringing multiples more people into the country than you are building houses this just makes it magnitudes worse.

Yes but again, what you're talking about here is a targeted concern about high immigration — not overpopulation. Regardless of annual numbers, the overall numbers show that there probably wouldn't be a hugely material difference in our population if immigrants and emigrants were swapped around.

What that tells you is that it's not a problem of overpopulation that we have. What we have is a problem of there being a historic and ongoing lack of impetus to modernise and improve our infrastructure and resources to deal with the inevitable population increase deriving from our emergence as a modern dynamic economy — not to mention an almost abject failure to make practical provision for the fact that we have rapidly changed from a very rural / agricultural society into an increasingly urbanised one.

Notwithstanding the fact that the influx of Ukrainian refugees was an unprecedented event (and one which — while we can argue all day as to what was the right way to approach it — we probably could not have completely avoided) — I'm not sure I buy the argument that it's realistic to expect we would not be experiencing the housing, services and cost of living issues of today if asylum seekers disappeared or we dramatically reduced migration (without that reduction causing problems of its own).