EV Battery Range

OP said it's 2 days a week.

I wasn't doing any scaremongering so please don't try to lump me in with any of that nonsense. Mine is an informed opinion. Whether you agree or not is up to you.

I never said it would cause "issues", I said it would be bad for the battery. And it is. It will degrade quicker using it in the extremes like that.

But again the main point that was being made was having to run the car down to 10% or less on the commute was cutting it too fine. It leaves no leeway for emergencies or other such scenarios. (Op does not want to stop to charge)

I've an EQE (600km wltp) and it will do 370km in its sleep with 30% left

250,000km or 10 year warranty on the battery.

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charge with night rate and get some solar in, never worry about the price of fuel again.

So assuming it makes the journey from Dublin coast to Ballinaskelligs, we'd need to charge it there before we do anything else. So how long would it take to charge from near empty to full again using mains power from a farmhouse?

its not near empty its at better than 20%.. so you need to add enough to get home off a 3 pin ? ~ 30 odd hours @2.5kw/hour less if dont need to get to 100% which you didnt use in the first place on the way down

Personally, I'd stop for a coffee and a pee during a 5 hour car journey @ ionity cashel and get more charge than I needed while sipping a beverage

Interestingly I've never had to charge the EQE from a public charger, almost needed to once - going to the giants causeway

Why do you look at Evs if you have doubts that you will likely have inconvenience on your journeys ? Spending crazy money on a car to then not be able to drive without range anxiety. What if you need to change your route on return journey or make unplanned journey after return. This has been discussed many times but if any doubts don’t buy ev .

OP, many EVs will make that trip except for when temperatures drop below 5 degrees and you travel above 100km/h. Typically that's the month of January only, so all other months you won't need to charge mid trip nor slow down.

You can measure efficiency on the drive down and then decide to take it slow then rest of the way and on the way back. If you are below 50% on arrival then you need to stop on the way back somewhere or slow way down. Head winds can hinder range while tail winds can help. Worst case is cold windy and rain.

As others have said depreciation may be a big cost, easily 20% in year one, 10% every year after or worse if a new model comes out etc. That may nullify any fuel savings. Personally I would want 50-100km left on arriving home as a safety margin and for trips in the evenings to the shops or friends.

OP if you decide to drop the idea of going ev route, BMW 3 series 2 l diesel can do 4.9 l per 100 km on a motorway at 120 km/ h or slightly faster. This is 8 euro per 100 km . I had this car for 3 years and it was very economical and fun to drive and comfortable. Range 1200 km out of tank of diesel.
Can find used one low mileage example for 20 k and have 30 k in your pocket.

It's a really Interesting point this. When the batteries in the cars improve to a certain point in a country as small as ours, return journeys will be easily made on one charge. Will there turn out to be very little need for public charging points in the future?

Im sitting in the VHI swiftcare clinic which I drove to immediately after returning home from work. One of the kids has sprained something or other. While driving the 15m to the clinic I remembered why I was reluctant to go BEV. There is another world where I've done a weeks driving and I'm coming home on low battery intending to charge it tonight

On the days we do 1200km, the stops are always food&fuel, whether it was ICE or EV. They're not sighting seeing days.

The idea of doing 1200km in one day in anything except an airplane sounds exhausting

By all means keep driving a diesel if you want to drive 1000km without stopping. Thankfully 99% of people don’t want or need to do that

If you don't want to charge then don't get an BEV.

You think you're describing a problem. But its not. Just hit a fast charger for a few minutes and you'd have enough to do your trip across to swiftcare and back.

Whats the reason you want to buy an EV instead of diesel. Because you don't seem to have one.

you could buy a car that has already depreciated. Market changed very quickly for EVs in the last year and it will again. Same could happen almost overnight for ice cars too.

As I mentioned already I’d strongly recommend a long range model 3. It will easily do that trip. They also don’t depreciate as much as other brands this year at least.

I dont think I’ve ever had under 15 km or even 30 km range left in my car. And I’ve also done the emergency trip to hospital in last fortnight. They were talking about transferring us to Crumlin and I still would have been happier in the ev. I could have taken the diesel of course but I didn’t. It’s an older car and you’d be worried it could break down.

Consider if any finance on a new car will be effected by such high mileage. Many have limits and penalties.

If looking which is financially better then a new car is never going to make sense. But that's a different discussion.

A diesel is going to have the longest non stop range. If that's the main objective, and overrules everything else.

In a situation where diesel is more suitable than petrol. An EV is never going to a good call. Unless you are motivated by fuel saving or chasing a specific strategy of buying new, saving on all costs by changing the car when you hit 75% of the mileage or finance limit and taking a hit at that point on depreciation and the cost to change.

Or buy something already heavily depreciated and run it into the ground a the least cost overall.

Because this has nothing to do with the range of the car. But forecasting what an EV is going to worth in 2 or 3 years in the middle of a price war, and in a political environment where the govt is not disincentivising diesel over an EV. Where all that will be in 2-3 yrs is anyone's guess.

The conservative choice is the long range diesel. The EV will be the more enjoyable place to be. So much less work driving an EV. If you're buying new you're already choosing luxury over frugality.

If saving money is your objective, buying a new car of any sort is not the best approach.

If new then PCP will struggle with the mileage, but will protect from the unknown depreciation risk. Anything you buy will depreciate.

Like I said if stopping as little as possible even if its just a max of 4 times in a week of 10+hrs of driving, is more important than everything else, then diesel is your only choice. Anything else is compromised. You'll have to stop more often in a petrol or hybrid than a diesel. Its not even a discussion.