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What’s your most controversial opinion? **Read OP** **Mod Note in Post #3372**

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  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 50,284 CMod ✭✭✭✭magicbastarder


    apparently the 'next gen' of euro NCAP regulations will dock a full star off a car's rating if certain basic functions in the car are not accessible through physical controls (i.e. ones that can be operated with muscle memory)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,568 ✭✭✭✭El_Duderino 09




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,210 ✭✭✭Cordell


    Wrong topic delete pls.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,882 ✭✭✭✭Strumms


    Most new cars you can change the radio station, take a phone call without removing your hand off the wheel or looking at anything…

    As regards temperature control, a second to look at the controls and you’ve turned it on / off or changed it.

    You have to take your eyes off the road in front of you to routinely check the mirrors, as is the law, not optional.

    So glancing at a panel of buttons to turn on aircon for about 1 second if required, is not a big deal.



  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 5,164 Mod ✭✭✭✭spacetweek


    Don’t agree. Volume needs to be a roller, aircon up/down gotta be real buttons for me. I change those settings too often to be looking at a screen.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,598 ✭✭✭eightieschewbaccy


    I'd agree with you largely, controls with feedback and that don't require going through menus are absolutely needed. In relation to volume though, I'm fine with it being on the steering wheel. I've never adjusted from the screen. 😂



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 50,284 CMod ✭✭✭✭magicbastarder


    from a quick google, the changes to euro NCAP seem to be a bit of a paper tiger - they seem to only relate to actual driving controls, and i suspect very few car manufacturers have moved driving controls to touchscreens?

    "What that means is that cars that don’t meet certain criteria, such as allowing the driver to activate the turn signals, hazard lights, horn, windshield wipers and eCall SOS feature without prodding the touchscreen will be unable to achieve a 100 percent score."

    https://www.carscoops.com/2024/03/has-touchscreen-tech-gone-too-far-euro-ncap-thinks-so/

    so playing with the aircon, radio, etc., would still be fully manageable through a touchscreen.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 389 ✭✭highpitcheric


    im ok with the new bottle caps.

    they can be inconvenient, but measured against the old caps which you had to place down and then pick back up, or carry with the risk of dropping, the new design is on aggregate the more lazy-friendly.

    No more disappearing cap. No more looking under the couch and wondering where the fk.

    No more picking up a cap with a hair and a cornflake stuck to it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 785 ✭✭✭z80CPU
    Darth Randomer


    Those of YOU who put on grave hard facial expressions with every rain shower:

    You should display on the breast of your raincoat a line medals paper or whatever for each shower of rain / drizzle you've been through.

    Well Adobe well done etc.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,007 ✭✭✭randd1


    Fake tan makes a person look trashy.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,482 ✭✭✭AllForIt


    I don't see the need to have them on products you'd only have in the fridge particularly milk. They should only be on drinks where you might drop the cap outdoors.

    Controversial opinion: I find grown adults who drink bottles of pop and packets of crisps, how will I put it, a bit juvenile. And I don't get how people can eat meals with a drink that is basically liquid sugar. Yuck, I feel ill at the the thought of it. I grew out of all that naturally without even trying.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,210 ✭✭✭Cordell


    And real tan is even worse, it increases the risk of getting melanoma and it ages the skin prematurely. White skin is beautiful.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,919 ✭✭✭Greyfox


    With no cap theirs a small chance milk could get contaminated. I agree with your second paragraph



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 389 ✭✭highpitcheric


    well look at you sniffing wine and discussing textures like a big boy.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,944 ✭✭✭growleaves


    We should bring back duels.

    "Sir, you have misgendered me. I demand satisfaction. Choose your weapon."



  • Registered Users Posts: 2,972 ✭✭✭mikemac2


    Not controversial at all

    Everyone should work at least six months in a customer service position. That education will last you a lifetime. For the rest of your life you will treat people with respect.

    When I was a barman the ordinary working people were sound to me. The extremely rich people in the town (like the owner of the cement works) were nice and kind. The worst customers were the middle class new money, own a few flats around town jumped up snobs who treated me like dirt. What business acumen did they show to get their wealth? None, they just married a smart builder and these "ladies who leisure" do not even work.

    We do not need military service but a lot of people sure do need 6 months working retail! Looking back that was a lousy, minimum wage, mopping toilets, serving drunks job but I learned a life lesson and so can others



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,917 ✭✭✭✭gormdubhgorm


    Those Godfather films - Jayus they are so long drawn out and boring. Well shot with some good bits in them admittedly (De Niro in particular). But overall they really drag, it is a real slog.

    For example, Godfather II was on RTE recently. Honestly, I fell asleep watching it!

    Guff about stuff, and stuff about guff.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,492 ✭✭✭silliussoddius


    A few people I know visited Ireland over the summer, one thing that they separately remarked on was how the young girls looked identical with fake tan, clothing etc.



  • Moderators, Music Moderators Posts: 12,566 Mod ✭✭✭✭iamstop


    While it may increase the risk of melanoma, I disagree it looks trashy. In fact, if done right, on the right natural tone of skin, it can actually look quite good and healthy. Most Irish people can't make it look right but very many people in mainland Europe can. French, Spanish, Italian, Greek, Estonian, Belgian and Czech are just some of the nationalities I've meet who can tan very well.

    Fan tan is trashy almost by default. Real tan is not.

    My CO for today is that 95% of people (mostly women) who get work done on their face (lips, eyes, cheeks etc) are worse looking for it and look unnatural . It's rare that it actually improves things. I put this down to the types of people who get it done in the first place. Most don't need it. Pure misguided vanity.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,568 ✭✭✭✭El_Duderino 09


    On the point about women getting work done: I think you'd be surprised at the number of people who git it done but get it so subtlety that you wouldn't know. A few people close to me in their late 30s and early 40s have told me they get botox. I would never have known, and still couldn't tell when they told me.

    So while it might be true to say that when you can see someone has had work done from a glance passing them in the street, 95% of the time it's awful. But the issue is you don't know who has just had a small (dare I say tasteful?) bit of work done which just smoothes out some wrinkles as they appear.



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  • Moderators, Music Moderators Posts: 12,566 Mod ✭✭✭✭iamstop


    That's a fair point. I guess a more accurate statement would be 100% of people I meet for the first time and can tell they've had work done looks trashy. I agree that some degree of subtle work can be done tastefully.

    There are also cases of people with very large noses, sticky out ears or mole removal that if you know them it's obvious, but is still an improvement after.



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 50,284 CMod ✭✭✭✭magicbastarder


    it's like everything else - if you can see the puppet strings, the illusion is worse than the reality.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,568 ✭✭✭✭El_Duderino 09


    Thinking about it, I have a schoolfriend who's ears stuck out. He was a good looking guy and a sound man and nobody even slagged him about it. It was too on the nose to slag him. A few years after school he got it sorted and it was a great job. Nobody would notice unless they knew him before. Also know a woman who had a double mastectomy after breast cancer and she got herself a pair of implants that suit her. She's slight and the breasts are small to suit her. Great job.

    So there are probably plenty of people like that with ears and noses like yous said. But if I see someone with obvious duck lips and cheek fillers, it's always bad. There must be a point in the consultation where they ask if the customer wants it to be a subtle enhancement or if they really want everyone to know they had work done.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,210 ✭✭✭Cordell


    I didn't say real tan it looks trashy, I said it's harmful, and it's not worth it.

    Nothing controversial about yours, almost any work done including hair dye looks unnatural. Lip filler jobs never look good, not on anyone, no matter how little. Lip filler is only for OF workers.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,568 ✭✭✭✭El_Duderino 09


    I se what you're saying but I think how you treat other people is probably more innate than that. I think you took that from your customer service experience but you were probably inclined to do it anyway. I worked customer facing jobs as young lad too and I think some people would enjoy punching down, as they might see it, all the same if they had actually done it. "It was sh1t for me when I did it so it will be sh1t for you too", that kind of attitude.

    Some people are just really awkward around being served and it comes across as rudeness. I worked in a very rural golf club and some of the rudeness was just people who weren't used to service. They would have been happier getting it for themselves than ordering through a waiter. Didn't make any small talk or eye contact or anything to make it go smoother and just sort of grunted. It was frustrating at the time but in hindsight, it was mostly awkwardness on their part.

    Not to take from the occasional d1ck who you'd also meet.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,987 ✭✭✭NewbridgeIR


    When I worked in financial services, some of the nicest customers were from the less affluent areas. Most people were sound enough but there was a small minority that were arrogant, condescending and rude. They tended to be middle class people in creative-type jobs. They didn’t even try to disguise their contempt for the “squares in suits”.



  • Moderators, Music Moderators Posts: 12,566 Mod ✭✭✭✭iamstop


    Eh, you directly quoted someone who's only point was that fake tan is trashy and followed it with the words "A real tan is worse".

    [img]https://i.ibb.co/V3LWD6V/fake-tan.jpg[/img]

    Maybe your intention was not to say a real tan is trashy, but you did say a real tan is trashy.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,348 ✭✭✭suvigirl




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,210 ✭✭✭Cordell


    Yes, my intention was to say it's worse because it's harmful, which is worse than trashy. Orange fake tan won't kill you, but melanoma will.

    Yes it is, as in any skin color is beautiful as it is and there is no need to change it. If you read something else between the lines then that's your problem, there was nothing there.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,482 ✭✭✭AllForIt


    Tanning is the body's natural defence to the harful effects of the sun.

    It's purpose is not for the effect of how others might judge it in terms of whether it looks better/worse than any other skin color, which would be subjective anyway.

    If Australlinas weren't of north european heritage and had better tanning ability - their skin cancer rates wouldn't be so high.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,210 ✭✭✭Cordell


    We humans have very little in the way of natural defenses against the elements like sun, rain, heat, cold. That's why we wear clothes and don't expose ourselves naked to the elements. I mean, there are also other reasons, but you know what I mean.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,507 ✭✭✭✭castletownman


    I have zero interest in the Paralympics.

    Its the sporting equivalent of following up a sun holiday (the Olympics) with a damp, miserable day upon landing back in Dublin.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,598 ✭✭✭eightieschewbaccy


    Wouldn't agree at all tbh. They're still athletes who hit peak physical conditions in spite of their disabilities. It's genuinely incredible. You obviously aren't required to be interested but from a sporting perspective, it's very much a great thing.



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    Ironically having a tan was very undesirable and considered a trait of the working class by the gentry, back in the day when the gentry only took to walking around outside under parasols to shade their beautiful bleached white skin from the sun. Pale was refined and wealthy. It was also why they applied rouge to their lips and cheeks as it signified healthiness. (or at least that they weren't dead) Tanning only became fashionable in the last couple of decades as it became associated with fitness and athleticism.

    My CO for today is that 95% of people (mostly women) who get work done on their face (lips, eyes, cheeks etc) are worse looking for it and look unnatural . It's rare that it actually improves things. I put this down to the types of people who get it done in the first place. Most don't need it. Pure misguided vanity.

    You would be very surprised at the amount of people who have work done, it's today's version of going to a hair salon for a cohort of people. Botox and dermal fillers are practically the norm.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,482 ✭✭✭AllForIt


    Yes we were told that at school as well as about plump women being the most sexually desirable back in the Victorian era.

    That generation would have loved to live in our times where plump is more plentiful 😆



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,519 ✭✭✭kowloonkev


    I don't know why they put the proper Olympics on first. It's like Oasis supporting Louise Morrissey or something.

    Next Man City manager: You lot may all be internationals and have won all the domestic honours there are to win under Pep. But as far as I'm concerned, the first thing you can do for me is to chuck all your medals and all your caps and all your pots and all your pans into the biggest **** dustbin you can find, because you've never won any of them fairly. You've done it all by bloody cheating.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,519 ✭✭✭kowloonkev


    I think having a tan is still very much a trait of the working classes.

    Next Man City manager: You lot may all be internationals and have won all the domestic honours there are to win under Pep. But as far as I'm concerned, the first thing you can do for me is to chuck all your medals and all your caps and all your pots and all your pans into the biggest **** dustbin you can find, because you've never won any of them fairly. You've done it all by bloody cheating.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,676 ✭✭✭✭Princess Consuela Bananahammock


    That was more or practical reasons: plump women were considered to be capable of bearing more children than thin women.

    Everything I don't like is either woke or fascist - possibly both - pick one.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,878 ✭✭✭mrslancaster


    We should have an exit / departure tax for every person leaving the country.

    Not sure how we'd control that for anyone leaving through airports or ferryports in the north though. Maybe anyone leaving the island might work?



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    I sat looking at my flipflop feet on the coffee table earlier and if I didn't know any better I'd say you might be correct.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,007 ✭✭✭randd1


    The ar5e is going to fall out of soccer within 15 years.

    It's at the point of saturation, and unless there's rules brought in, the Super League will become a reality and with it the decline of the sport, and possibly the permanent decline of international soccer.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,210 ✭✭✭Cordell


    the permanent decline of international soccer can't come soon enough. They're a bunch of grossly overpaid uneducated cnts and FIFA and UEFA a bunch of gangsters.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,019 ✭✭✭Iscreamkone


    I love the grossly overpaid comments.
    Some players may be paid a lot - but every club will pay players as little as they can get away with.

    Maybe at the top level formal education might be low. But anyone playing at the top level is intelligent- tactics, s&c, nutrition, finance.

    FIFA and uefa may seem like gangsters to you but the game has never been so popular across the globe.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,019 ✭✭✭Iscreamkone


    What’s wrong with a Super League?

    Best teams + best players playing against each other more regularly. Sounds great. If the public won’t pay to watch on tv then it won’t work… but they will pay because it will be SUPER



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,676 ✭✭✭✭Princess Consuela Bananahammock


    iIt only works if you level the playing field a bit. Even City v Real has gotten boring.

    Everything I don't like is either woke or fascist - possibly both - pick one.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,453 ✭✭✭Hoop66




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,210 ✭✭✭Cordell


    FIFA and UEFA are gangsters, that's what they are. They are selling a very popular product, and that's not uncommon among gangsters.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2015_FIFA_corruption_case



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,007 ✭✭✭randd1


    To be honest. I'm warming to the notion of a Super League, but not in the format it was proposed. The only problem with it is that a Super League would likely have to have some method thrown in to make sure any one team can't dominate and every side has a very equal chance of success (like the NFL). Can't see the likes of United, Arsenal or Liverpool fans being happy finishing last every year as the small fish, never mind others.

    I think it would also be a great chance for domestic leagues around the world to reset without the bigger clubs blocking them from making more equal adjustment.

    I think soccer needs a bit of a reset in general.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 920 ✭✭✭sock.rocker*


    Broadly speaking, men get better at new relationships whereas women get worse.

    A 35-year-old man going into a new relationship will usually be a better version of himself at 25. More cooking / cleaning, less going out, more home-focused etc. Practically every man I know around this age is a better version of themselves. A 35-year-old woman going into a new relationship is usually going to be a more independently-minded and more cautious thanks to previous bad experiences.

    Basically, men drift towards being more capable of being a good partner over time whereas women drift towards being more independent. Anecdotally, basically all the 35+ year old single women I know seem to be really proud of being independent and single. No single men I know gain any self-worth from being single. "I don't need a man" is a common idea in popular culture. It's seen as powerful and independent. There is nothing powerful about a man saying they don't need a woman.

    There's also a really common notion amongst women that a man has to be equal to them or better, whereas it's pretty well-established that men don't care about a woman's education / wealth / job etc. I think this becomes more pronounced for women as they get older with "What does he bring to the table?" being asked while men don't require that their new partner meet some standard.

    I think society has a really simplistic "younger women have more value because they're hotter and more fertile" take on dating and age gaps etc., but I think it's more nuanced and has more to do with attitudes and attachments to independence. I think for men, a 25-year-old woman is easier to date than a 35-year-old, and for women, a 35-year-old man is better to date than a 25-year-old.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,568 ✭✭✭✭El_Duderino 09


    Single older women are happier than single older men, according to research I've heard about. Men become more dependent on their partner than women do.

    Makes sense that men would knuckle down and try to be a man women want to keep if women are happier being independent.



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