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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,277 ✭✭✭eightieschewbaccy


    Also some targeting of individual posters via the dispute from what I can see.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,854 ✭✭✭✭Tell me how


    You and I interacting isn't something that adds to the quality of the site so let's minimise it as much as possible.

    Let me tell you this with absolute sincerity and conviction. I am going to respond to your posts 100% of the time exactly when I want to. You have one final string for your bow and that's to send me a PM asking me to not respond to your posts as similar posters to you have done in the past. I can save you having to put the effort in to sending that PM in telling you that I will ignore it. You do not get to dictate whether or not I choose to respond to your posts.

    All you've done over the last couple of weeks on here is convince me you're seeing Boards as some sort of real life simulation with you being a main character and everyone else is here to either engage with you in a manner you are comfortable with, or behave as you direct them to. It is laughable.

    I can't imagine there's 110 people ahead of me that made it to your ignore list before I did so I strongly presume that you either haven't put people on ignore, or you have, but continually read the posts and respond. Because you seem intent in responding to the few I've posted in the last week while asking me to not do so. Another contradiction in your behavior versus your words.

    I've posted on this and the last feedback thread of how big an issue I feel moderation is with the site experience. Your posts, particularly last night where you told us about sending more PM's to a mod asking them to intervene because you're prevent from reporting posts actually led me to feel sorry for what they have to put up with in their role. So well done on that achievement.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,369 ✭✭✭✭Furze99


    "I would love to see any of the 'anti' contingent start a thread with no other focus but to support or benefit a community directly, without only doing so as a method of targeting or belittling another community or ideal which was seems to have actually been their primary intent."

    I have a thread a while back supporting our young people and the difficulties facing same as regards housing. I'd like to see the Irish community pull together to facilitate our own citizens born in the 1990s onwards to get suitable housing and be in a position to start & grow families like a generation before.

    I'm very much of the opinion we should be patriotic, we should all do our best to contribute to our birth nation and state and leave it a better place when when die than when we came in. That our first duty is to our own Irish community.

    And you'll find many other posters expressing related opinions.

    And for that matter, I believe the best place for many of our 'new arrivals' is back in their own state doing the same.

    But you won't go far with this before you're challenged and accused of being Nationalist with a capital N and Right Wing with a capital R. There's a good few people here who are so liberal, they've lost the idea of helping your own first or are in the pay of the system.

    And to bring it back to site feedback, moderators need to be strictly neutral and allow such views. To not be biased by their own predilections.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,341 ✭✭✭✭nullzero
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    Why do I have to put up with a Cmod accusing me of Narcissism or users piling onto me for giving them what they were looking for earlier in the thread, namely less posts from people they disagree with?

    All I'm doing is filtering out the potential for arguments that make the site worse for me and others and I'm being bombarded with abuse and cod psychology from openly antagonistic people who get to abuse me with impunity while anything I do in response is sanctioned immediately.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,869 ✭✭✭Shoog


    This is the sort of framing of an issue which is a real issue. It focuses on immigration as the cause of our housing crisis - without even mentioning the systemic issues of affordability, strategic planning and legislation which the government has completely dropped the ball on. Then there are a whole raft of other systemic issues which are largely outside of the control of any state to manage. But the only thing you can think to mention is immigration.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,930 ✭✭✭✭Snake Plisken


    A Cmod who should step away from CA as clearly has blinkered options on news sources, politics and posters on here. It's known as a conflict of interest. Post away as a normal poster is fine.

    I will stand by that opinion and never move from it and from these threads a lot of other posters feel the same.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,095 ✭✭✭I.R.Y.E.D


    So some who believe and repeat conspiracy theories like the great replacement are being attacked by others when challenged on their views and by being shown how their evidence is factually incorrect, and the mods are facilitating these attacks and ruining the site when they issue and won't rescind warnings or bans.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 87,191 ✭✭✭✭JP Liz V1


    I thought this thread was for about feedback of the site as a whole, did I miss when it became individual poster wars



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,627 ✭✭✭Quantum Erasure


    The search on desktop site is ok, even viewed on mobile

    If you click on 'discussions' instead of 'all' above, you get more search options on the right hand side, you can enter a few key words under 'title' and that will search threads with only those words in the title



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,261 ✭✭✭Packrat


    I expect they'll be along shortly to close it, citing the above.

    It's relatively pointless anyway given that the mods and admins all agree (after exhaustively investigating) that they have no bias at all at all.

    There's really nothing to be done, given that a stubborn minority of us still resist all re-education efforts and insist on taking the evidence of our eyes and ears over correct-speak.

    Further, the site owners appear to have abandoned the place and perhaps it would be a mercy if some day soon we were greeted with a 404 message as someone suggested earlier will eventually be the end of boards.

    “The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command”



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,854 ✭✭✭✭Tell me how


    Well, I appreciate you starting a discussion from a pro-active position rather than the anti-position I referred to in my post. I do feel that maybe that discussion could be held without making immigrants a focal point of it and suggesting they would be better off in their own countries. But as I said, I appreciate asking 'What can we do' rather than the Ian Paisley approach of yesteryear.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 31,648 ✭✭✭✭odyssey06


    The poster's feedback relates to the conduct of other posters. If you are talking about claims v 100+ highly active posters getting away with "abuse", and that it is being facilitated by biased moderation, that becomes site wide in scope.

    Not sure how you can challenge such feedback without it also becoming in part about the individual making those claims.

    But it is focused on CA... the gone quiet forums have few champions here for obvious reasons.

    Post edited by odyssey06 on

    "To follow knowledge like a sinking star..." (Tennyson's Ulysses)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,854 ✭✭✭✭Tell me how


    No you didn't, you've commented on it repeatedly.

    That detour in the discussion was/is particularly useful I feel because of how moderators are viewed in the context of how they moderate on Boards.

    The type of discussion on here in terms of focusing on posters isn't something that is permitted throughout the site generally with the 'broad sweeping but subjective 'don't attack the poster rule'. I've long felt allowing posters to challenge each other on an individual level should be permitted as long as it doesn't cross a line.

    That happening here as it did, was revealing in a way we rarely see on the site.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,369 ✭✭✭✭Furze99


    Where precisely did I focus on immigration as you say?? Please point it out. And be good enough to apologise for the type of slur that I do instance at the base of my post. I did not state or focus on immigration as the source of housing problems. I merely mentioned that our 'new arrivals' would do best to help build there own nations. But the focus of my post was on what we Irish citizens and society should prioritise. Your reaction and that of below just proves the very point that I was making about bias.

    Ditto.

    But yous are only only ordinary posters and entitled to your opinions and I and others are to ours. The issue for boards is when the sort of conclusions you tend to jump to immediately are echoed by moderators.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 87,191 ✭✭✭✭JP Liz V1




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,690 ✭✭✭Feisar


    I'm long enough in the tooth to remember Feeky McGee and the craic that was had around that, Terry, etc, etc. Even when people were being called to task there deffo was a much more community vibe about the place. Why exactly I don't know, more meetups perhaps, maybe people that were friends offline were here and it gave a sort of veneer of community, also the type of people who have access to the internet is much greater; any idiot with a phone is online now. A big part of the reason for decline though is forums aren't how most people spend their time online now. Boards was of it's time and I'm sure will survive but the current trend is what it is and I don't see anything changing that.

    The current thread on the stabbing incident in Solingen is a sad reflection of the place on both sides of the argument compared with some of the great debates I've read the back and forth on here over the years.

    First they came for the socialists...



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,341 ✭✭✭✭nullzero
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    Considering the lack of willingness from some to compromise, it might be easier for boards to just stop the discussion of current affairs altogether and keep the site as a collection of specialised fora.

    Theres a lot of users here who to my mind have demonstrated that they are here primarily for a bit of argy bargy, and if those types of personalities are tolerated for too long they just drive decent users away, they're contributing to the slow death of the site as a whole so maybe the likes of current affairs should be left off of the platform if they can't be discussed in a civilised manner.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 742 ✭✭✭z80CPU
    Darth Randomer


    ^^^^ @nullzero

    Second # checks out.

    These users don't give a $hit about the site and will delight in running it into the ground



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,869 ✭✭✭Shoog


    Says the man with a string of thread bans. If you can't comport your self in Current affairs in a way which doesn't get you regularly banned - maybe you should abscent yourself from that forum for the good of your own health.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,341 ✭✭✭✭nullzero
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    All three thread bans I've accumulated in the 15 years I've been on the site have been as a result of defending myself against people such as yourself who are only looking for an argument through misrepresentation much like what you've included in your post just now.

    As has been pointed out previously I have taken accountability for this and am using the ignore function to circumvent those types of situations in future.

    Not that my presence on any forum is any of your business Shoog.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 424 ✭✭Roger the cabin boy




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,341 ✭✭✭✭nullzero
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    A similar element of users crept into the comments section on broadsheet a few years ago. There was a nice community of posters there until these people arrived accusing the site of being far right etc, eventually the site closed down and those commentors were revelling in its closure, it's very similar to some of the guff being put forward here about boards turning into stormfront et al.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,010 ✭✭✭✭anewme


    Just on your point about "decent users", many of the posters who contributed to this thread are now banned and must have caused a lot of unnecessary Mod intervention and work. They will probably make a reappearance at some point, to cause bother again.

    If someone is constantly having to be monitored and getting a lot of bans, then they are surely causing the "argy bargy" you speak about.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,181 ✭✭✭✭Ha Long Bay


    Since Musk took over Twitter there is no regulation as to what is posted so it might be a time to update the site rules.

    Posters are using it as a source often without comment to dump anything they come across to make or backup a point.

    The danger is others clicking them links and ending up down the same rabbit hole.

    Just a single example from this evening leaving the poster and thread out of it as its not relevent.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,277 ✭✭✭eightieschewbaccy


    This goes back to you blaming others on moderation actions against you.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,181 ✭✭✭✭Ha Long Bay


    And this is the kind of stuff posted in AH in a supposed light-hearted thread.

    This is what is killing the site.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,066 ✭✭✭Smee_Again


    The point is that those who are repeatedly coming to the attention of moderators need to learn how to post within the lines rather than asking for the lines to be widened.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,341 ✭✭✭✭nullzero
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    Nobody it would seem is capable of being civil, particularly in this thread, however only people expressing certain opinions tend to find themselves on the sharp end of moderation for the most part, that's the point that was being made.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,066 ✭✭✭Smee_Again


    But you've claimed in comment #1671 that all your thread bans are from defending yourself against other commentors, not for expressing your opinions.

    So, which is it? Are you being sanctioned for your opinions or for your comments/behaviour when defending yourself?

    And, do you even know the difference? Because you've said many times over this thread that you have to defend yourself against other commenters and that is what gets you in trouble.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,066 ✭✭✭Smee_Again


    Your OP was of that post was focused on immigration.

    The government regularly spins numbers of new houses built and mortgages given to first time buyers but is there ever any breakdown as to nationality benefiting from this. I presume our many new non nationals on valid work visas working in tech and medicine etc are all included in these purchases & mortgages.

    This housing business and the squeeze on young adults has been an issue before but I see it really exploding now as an issue. There is no easy fix for the government and they insist on pouring petrol on the fire by actively allowing the population to expand.



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