(Site is a graveyard - How can boards save itself?) Any update?

Close the thread before the mask slips any further?

weren’t you just complaining loudly about ad hominems?

"Anyone voting for the retention status quo doesn't want to lose the advantages that grants them."

Anyone voting against the status quo doesn't want to play by the rules, and won't play by new rules either.

See how easy it is to present an argument when you couch it in such terms?

I mean that's also a factor that definitely doesn't help things. Most of the time the major holdup in DRP is that one has to exhaust "discussion with the mod that issued" first before anything else. Really though, a mod team of a forum — and also the CMods of the category — should be able to speak for/defend the assumed rationale of the original issuing mod.

The process would go a lot better if it went something like this:

• DRP can be started without having to exhaust discussion with original mod, and PM conversation of the action (which is usually automated, I think?) should be able to be posted immediately without requiring any silly "permission" from the mod that issued it.
• Once started, there is a 24 hour period for any mod of the forum to respond. If DRP started without exhausting discussion with original mod, this period is extended to 72 hours.
• Failing a response, or if manually requested to go up a level, there is then another 24 hour period for a CMod to respond.
• Failing a response, of if manually requested to go up a level, there is a final 24 hour period for an Admin to respond.
• If no response from any level, the original mod action is considered null and void.

I hate reiterating Reddit, but man, if we left any mod action appeal sit untouched in our modmail for even 12 hours; then we're not doing our role correctly.

I just dropped into the thread dude, you have a big cmod badge and a cool picture of a horse.

Harsh comments are not tolerated across the site at all no matter how scummy/nice the person who fired the comment out is - is that correct?

As I said at the bottom, not taking any side at all - your comment that I quoted is harsh on its own two legs without the full context.

Please don’t take this as a personal attack or anything of the sort, it’s just the sort of thing I feel the site could use less off.

along with mods closing threads with comments like “it’s terrible Joe”. Not naming any names 😂

Yea, actually I think I do understand:

When a site is as busy or as active as here or Reddit, someone has to be able to respond promptly. Whether that's the original mod, or another member of the team at that level or above.

This isn't Reddit.

I would agree with your ideas for the streamlining of the steps, but the timelines I think as mentioned I can't see being a runner for boards. I don't think that the mod tools are sufficient either for the process mentioned.

Warnings that have triggered forum or site bans* though, ideally if they could be expedited, as they have major blocking consequences

* Yes I know they require someone to reg a new account to query.

I mean if those timelines aren't really a runner for the current crop of people in those roles; then honestly, there needs to be a personnel change.

Or, y'know, the people who are actually getting paid to manage this website — if any still exist — need to get stuck in themselves.

Seems to be more down to the size of the current crop of people, lack of numbers, which has been mentioned repeatedly on the thread as an issue.

Then either a) the size of the mod team site-wide needs to be bolstered; or b) the current crop need to be empowered more — like all mods become CMods of their category, and can undo other mod sanctions.

Support the assertion? This thread if full of people suggesting rules changes, some of which are to make the place better for all and some of which are so those individual posters get sanctioned less.

As for the ad homenim allegation; pointing out that you're personalising comments not directed at you or to you isn't an ad homenim.

And if you think it is then maybe that explains the persecution complex you appear to have.

Lastly, nowhere did I say you shouldn't be replying to me.

Very occasionally, the Reddit admins might offer up discount or gift codes for certain services; but that's only been offered maybe twice in the last five years — I think I've been offered like €15 credit for an online snack website, and three months free Premium for that Calm relaxation app thing.

There's also been those mod meetups mooted, and I believe there was one held in Dublin before I started modding there; but those have been pretty heavily curtailed since the pandemic.

But generally, no. We do it purely because we want to help curate an online community.

When you say you "don't touch" those threads; is that purely in the scope of a regular user browsing and commenting on them, or does it also include the scope of being a CMod of that category responding to reports emanating from those threads?