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Russia-Ukraine War (Threadbanned in op)

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,927 ✭✭✭✭Danzy


    All war is brutal and full of awful things, it is however only western or heavily western influenced states that take any heed of such things or have populations that care for such things or would view them as wrong.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,927 ✭✭✭✭Danzy


    Gone soft and worse again run down armies to being completely ineffectual and weapon reserves down to levels where training is a problem never mind combat or sustained combat.

    Gone soft and no gun.



  • Registered Users Posts: 4,948 ✭✭✭fly_agaric


    I didn't mean the longstanding terror of Putin or Russia and "escalations", or Russian state collapsing into chaos if it loses the war etc. (and probably "terror" is too strong!).

    I think there may be an additional fear (or a different fear if other one is waning with time?) in Biden admin. now (just a few months away from the election) that they change things up (e.g. further relaxation of restrictions on weapons use) the impact at home could be unpredictible, so steady as she goes. I think that's a mistake as war is unpredictible anyway.

    I don't mean to blame the US, but they are the ones with the most weapons that can help Ukraine, they lead NATO and have a big effect on the policy of the other NATO countries in Europe more affected by the war.

    Bar extreme circumstances, the others cannot or will not make big decisions themselves without the US leading or at least encouraging them.

    Yes, I totally agree with you about how disengaged from it people in this country (Ireland) seem to be anyway. If following international news and events, they seem more worried and absorbed by the ME and Israel/Palestine etc., which is a bit mad on the face of it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,397 ✭✭✭Suckler


    No, you just misrepresnted and misunderstood what I'd said but lacked the ability to admit you assumed wrong. Instead you stuck your fingers in your ears and proceeded with a nonsensical "you meant, you meant, you meant!!" ramble insisting you were right. At this point I have to ask if English is your first language?

    Also it's (unsurprisingly) unclear as to who or what you're now responding to…but I'm sure you've 'assumed' we'd know…

    Post edited by Suckler at


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,726 ✭✭✭✭breezy1985


    Sorry but I took you to mean that war crimes are something creeping back in.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 3,823 ✭✭✭zv2


    “Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities.” — Voltaire



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 210 ✭✭Avatar in the Post


    You’re more transparent than you think. Your narrative is false. I already allowed you the last word, after repeatedly correcting you, because you have nothing else to do. But, here we are again. Either you or your fellow traveller seem to want to initiate nonsense. Try to grow up and stop derailing the thread. It’s like as if you don’t want this thread topic to be discussed. 👀


    Actually, I’m done with this, spew your BS all you like.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 771 ✭✭✭thatsdaft


    Seeing how all of the useful idiots are busy on the Durov subject it’s obvious the Kremlin is in full panic mode about their and their armed forces and population in general reliance on Telegram



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,397 ✭✭✭Suckler


    Because you’re continuously wrong but lack the honesty to admit it. Again.



  • Registered Users Posts: 6,739 ✭✭✭eire4


    He was born in Pretoria and grew up in South Africa. He has Canadian citizenship through his Canadian mother which he got when he was a teenager moving there and later also got American citizenship.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 8,214 ✭✭✭saabsaab


    If Ukraine take Kursk it would be a huge feather in their cap. Russia don't seem to be capable/interested of/in stopping them.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,215 ✭✭✭rogber


    How naive do you have to be to think Russia signing up to anything means they will adhere to it? Ask the Ukrainians how much Russia's signature to any agreement is worth



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,215 ✭✭✭rogber


    No, you're projecting things I never intended. I don't think the gamble was a failure, unless its main aim was to slow Russia's progress in eastern Ukraine by making them divert troops - if anything the opposite has happened.

    As a morale booster and as another humiliation to Putin it's been a success. It also allowed them as already said to hit good military targets and capture prisoners to be swapped. All these things are good.

    Whether it will strengthen their hand in negotiations or slow Russia's progress in the east, which most experts agree are the two bigger aims, I think it's still too early to tell



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 540 ✭✭✭junkyarddog


    236 different types of missiles and drones fired in Ukraine!

    Give the Ukrainians what they need,and let them hit whatever they want inside russisa.

    Get this damn "Special Military Operation" finished once and for all!!



  • Registered Users Posts: 3,823 ✭✭✭zv2


    Western troops need to protect the Belorussian border and free up Ukrainian troops there. The west needs to get over its cowardice.

    “Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities.” — Voltaire



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,701 ✭✭✭✭Say my name


    So Putin launched whatever missiles he has because Telegram is going to be gone through with a fine toothcomb.

    Putin is worried his secret account will be found out. ..

    It'd be normal Putin behaviour. The weirdo.



  • Registered Users Posts: 3,823 ✭✭✭zv2


    “Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities.” — Voltaire



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