Vice President Kamala Harris vs Donald Trump 2024

It's not 8 years ago or even 4 years ago. A lot has happened since.

The gloves are off though.

No more they go low we go high.

Trump now is a convicted Felon and a jury decided he was a sexual abuser.

Harris as she has all ready proven will have no problem attacking him on that.

It seems like it could be a case that the rules of the ABC debate were never actually agreed (just the date), and Trump's team are arguing that it should be the same rules as the previous CNN debate. However Trump's team are also calling for a Fox News debate with completely different rules (such as a live audience).

So either all debates should be the same format as the first one, or any debate where the rules not yet agreed should be still open for discussion.

$22+ million for a stinky old jersey worn by Babe Ruth 90 years ago. The economy is fine. Like all the whinging in Ireland when the roads are awash in 241 and 242 reg plates on nice new cars.

Hillary was too robotic to deal with Trump in her debates. She was debating him as she would a normal politician.

Biden this year quite simply wasn't quick witted enough to counter the total crap Trump was spouting.

I don't think Harris has either of these hindrances.

Indeed Fact checking it live isn't possible which is why him ditching the ABC debate will be a huge opportunity for Kamala to fact check everything he lied about with 6 days of prep to parse it perfectly with an overwhelming audience, its an opportunity nobody has really had before.

The only way to deal with Trump’s Gish Gallop is to pick just one of his statements, (I was going to say his stupidest statement, but they’re all stupid) and counter that and don’t move on, keep going back to it, ignoring all subsequent statements.

Also with muted mics he could be muttering stuff at her that might get her distracted that her mic won't pick up.

@Quin_Dub

Johnathan Swan from Axios did a good job a few years ago with him, just kept calling him back on a single issue.

That's a bit easier to manage in a TV interview because the interviewer has a lot of leeway in terms of choosing what is discussed. In a debate, the moderator is usually trying to move things forward to different areas of policy.

Certainly not an impossible thing to do in a debate - even Trump himself managed to stick to the topic of the border in his debate against Biden - but you do need a way to always connect back to your attack points.

Why does Harris want to unmute the debate? Trump is an expert at spamming nonsense and gish gallop, she won't get a word in edgeways.

I wonder are they aiming for a "I'm speaking" moment where she's seen to shut Trump down during his rants

It would certainly be a powerful image for a lot of female voters, literally shutting the man up. However, I can't imagine there's many undecided women out there at the moment.

The women in the MAGA crowd will vote for Trump no matter what and presumably the women who aren't psychopaths are already voting for Harris

I suppose it's a case of mobilising support and getting people out to vote

In any case, I hope Kamala Harris is doing a lot of prep to stay focused during her talking points and not get interrupted. She's probably getting people to yell at her while she's working on her speeches to train her to work through the noise

Such is the state of modern politics 😬

National polls not really worth a damn, tbh. I think she needs to be beating Trump by 5 points to be "ahead".

Even then, it's the swing states that she needs to be leading by 3 points at least to carry them.