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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,869 ✭✭✭Shoog


    The safe spaces for snowflakes approach. Not ever going to happen.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,275 ✭✭✭eightieschewbaccy


    In this case, they're not attempt a debate on Trump in the thread, they're simply pointing out that posters have used certain rhetoric around mental health whenever suits. I do think we could go closer to home though, a poster only just a few posts ago made a mocking jab about a "poster being on the sauce" but that's an all good jab.

    I do think certain posters have attempted to make the thread about how they're hard done because they get warned for their posters. I've been warned for posts, I'm admittedly not doing enough to justify four in a week or whatever.



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 39,339 CMod ✭✭✭✭ancapailldorcha


    It's always the same thing. The MAGA types can be as abusive as they want but if you disagree in any way, you're being "abusive" and "making light of mental health".

    Engagement is pointless because they're so disingenuous and dishonest.

    The foreigner residing among you must be treated as your native-born. Love them as yourself, for you were foreigners in Egypt. I am the LORD your God.

    Leviticus 19:34



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,938 ✭✭✭Backstreet Moyes


    When I mentioned earlier the Cmod being uncivil to posters and similar left leaning posters join in, well this is an example of what goes on.

    This is what happens in most threads when you don't go with the far left narrative.

    Considering the progress we have made in regards mental health in this country, I find it disgusting the comments I have read from those posters.

    I would hope Boards shouldn't stand for such attacks and these posters are dealt with, it's gone on long enough without anything happening, so I won't hold my breath.

    Their are posters on this thread who can handle this and their are no excuses to let them away with it.

    When people express frustration of CA, this is what they are talking about, the lads who call themselves compassionate and the good guys getting away with disgusting attacks on posters who don't agree with them.

    When someone defends themselves they get warnings and bans.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,336 ✭✭✭✭nullzero
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    It's a disgrace that such rhetoric is tolerated.

    I see that poster joking about "making light of mental health" this morning, but it's ok because he's only doing so for "MAGA types".

    I don't even like Donald Trump, I generally don't take an interest in the man, but somehow because I disagree with these people I'm associated with Trump in perpetuity and must be a "MAGA type".

    Such a binary attitude, it absolutely puzzles me. If someone disagrees with them they feel justified in dehumanising them in their own minds. Anything goes from then on.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 49 Dogsdodogsstuff


    Edit: Just a reminder that accounts less than three months old and less than 100 posts are not permitted to post in feedback.

    Post edited by Mickeroo on


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 31,646 ✭✭✭✭odyssey06


    Exactly.

    Earlier on the thread, a certain poster was projecting "extreme anger" as the motivation behind a post critical of the views they'd expressed.
    By the standard they now declare, was that them implying the poster has "anger issues"?

    Apparently though it is ok for them to make such pronouncements, but when someone starts making similar about the motivations behind their posts and conduct on boards… it's WW3.

    It is an entirely self serving argument.

    It is a pattern we see repeated all over current affairs, posters trying to claim victimhood when their dodgy claims are challenged, one standard for them one standard for others, claiming biased moderation. Never examining their own posts to the standard they set others.

    "To follow knowledge like a sinking star..." (Tennyson's Ulysses)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 54,577 ✭✭✭✭Headshot


    You know what's funny, If you knew my posting history in American Politics threads you'll find my deep hatred for Trump and the MAGA crowd, so there goes your fake argument out the window, what's next?

    So if we turn this around anyone that disagrees with you is now MAGA affiliated? Talk about a disingenious and dishonest categorisation of a group of people.



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 39,339 CMod ✭✭✭✭ancapailldorcha


    The foreigner residing among you must be treated as your native-born. Love them as yourself, for you were foreigners in Egypt. I am the LORD your God.

    Leviticus 19:34



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 87,191 ✭✭✭✭JP Liz V1


    Never was I, just find the double standard disappointing and frustrating, warn all or none t



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,336 ✭✭✭✭nullzero
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    I never said anyone has anger issues. So no such pronouncements were made, you're making that up out of thin air.

    Talk about dodgy claims.

    That poster along with a raft of other people here got extremely agitated by my use of the ignore function posting angrily making a heap of accusations etc.

    According to your logic I should just accept it and not comment.

    The thing is, outside this thread I for the most part won't be replying to that type of nonsense anymore, so go nuts and enjoy yourselves, I'm doing the unthinkable and just not getting into the arguments anymore, this thread illustrates precisely why that's a wise decision.



  • Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators, Help & Feedback Category Moderators Posts: 25,453 CMod ✭✭✭✭Spear


    This thread will be let run for another 24 hours and then closed tomorrow at 5pm.

    This has been running for just over a month now already, and whatever valid feedback that can be gained from it surely has been at this point. All that's left is constant inter-personal bickering, attempts to derail it, and attempts to re-run past disputes and grievances.

    If anyone has any summing up or conclusions they want to present, then you've got a little over a day to do so.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 31,646 ✭✭✭✭odyssey06


    You said someone's post was motivated by "extreme anger."
    How is that not an "anger issue" by the standard you are ascribing to other people's posts about "mental health issues"?

    In light of the recent mod post, I will now simply link your post and readers of the thread can make up their own mind as to whether claims are being made up out of thin air.

    "To follow knowledge like a sinking star..." (Tennyson's Ulysses)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,999 ✭✭✭Gen.Zhukov


    My suggestion (fwiw) would be they change the slogan to - Boards.ie 'Now Ye're Leftin'

    That would clear things up nicely for anyone thinking of signing up and they won't be surprised when they get savaged for having centrist opinions

    It's a gradual passive takeover of the site by the left (in particular over the last 4/5 years) that's destroying the place imo - You'd think a site like this would be reflective of general life in Ireland - I can't move a millimeter around this site without bumping into someone with uber left/progressive views but I don't know or meet anybody like this in real life (I don't hang around Munich beer halls btw)

    If management, admin etc doesn't agree that the site is being overly influenced/represented by the left then so be it - If they do, and do nothing about about it, it will just decline further



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,336 ✭✭✭✭nullzero
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    I never said anyone has anger issues.

    You're lying when you say that.

    You're attempting to prove I'm a hypocrite but the evidence isn't there. I'm sure the people who typically agree with you will nod along but those are opinions I'm not concerned about tbh.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,275 ✭✭✭eightieschewbaccy


    I'd actually say much of the time, boards swings further right than the actual population. I can't think of anyone that I know that would support refugees drowning, burning down refugee accommodation or Peter Casey for president. But I could easily find a load on here that support all of the above.

    Also in relation to the "Uber left" posters, if they're following the rules, I'm not seeing the issue. Eg the rereges that drop in to post shite and abuse are not of a left wing persuasion but I'm guessing they're former members or site bans, I don't think they're a huge loss if they conduct themselves so poorly.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 31,646 ✭✭✭✭odyssey06


    I'm responding because you have accused me of lying, a serious accusation and it speaks to the credibility of the claims you have made on this thread about the conduct of posters and moderation in the wider forums.

    There is no dispute that you did write this as this is a direct quote from your post: "fuelled by extreme anger"

    This is what I wrote:

    Earlier on the thread, a certain poster was projecting "extreme anger" as the motivation behind a post critical of the views they'd expressed. By the standard they now declare, was that them implying the poster has "anger issues"?

    So to support your accusation of lying, where is the post from me claiming that you said it?

    And without that post, readers can draw their own conclusions about the credibility of the claims you are making.

    "To follow knowledge like a sinking star..." (Tennyson's Ulysses)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,690 ✭✭✭Feisar


    I'll see your "coke and hookers" and raise you a "blast them with piss"!

    First they came for the socialists...



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,010 ✭✭✭✭anewme


    When you have feedback asking why deliberately misgendering people is not allowed, then you see what type of stuff the Mods have to deal with and that people clearly believe their right to say what they like is more valid than basic respect for others.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,690 ✭✭✭Feisar


    How about a right wing mod for CA?

    First they came for the socialists...



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,336 ✭✭✭✭nullzero
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    You said I implied something, which you perceived as me saying another user has anger issues.

    If you perceive something to be a certain way, it doesn't make it so.

    You stated your opinion as fact, so you purposefully misrepresented me. Therefore you are a liar.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,645 ✭✭✭TheChrisD


    Can a sum up be — actually do something and implement whatever new things promptly; rather than just seemingly/showingly sweep all this under the rug — which is probably what most users feel like has been done with the majority of critical feedback given since the site migration?

    Like I think a fair few people would argue that the site is currently at crisis point right now, and inaction will probably condemn it to continue down the death spiral it's seemingly on.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 87,191 ✭✭✭✭JP Liz V1


    Maybe updated clear concise charters

    A feedback specific thread in the CA IMHO forum

    A speedy DR process

    US Politics forum

    There was a poster who was suggesting time limit bans instead of full thread or forum bans, sorry I will look back for the post which explained better



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 39,339 CMod ✭✭✭✭ancapailldorcha


    Why a US politics forum? We had one for years and it died a death well before the rework.

    The foreigner residing among you must be treated as your native-born. Love them as yourself, for you were foreigners in Egypt. I am the LORD your God.

    Leviticus 19:34



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,261 ✭✭✭Packrat


    “The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command”



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,336 ✭✭✭✭nullzero
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    The suggestions made relating to changes in how bans are handled with scaled punishments for repeat offenders should be implemented.

    There was some tightening of the rules relating to swearing that wasn't communicated beyond this thread, a CA forum announcement is required for any changes that are made, charter updates should be flagged to users.

    I still believe that having a list of phrases that continually cause flash points and derail threads should be considered, some saw this as overt censorship, but the CA forum is weighed down with the same petty grievances, the soccer forum cleared up a lot of crap by implementing that type of policy.

    Segregation of groups isn't really possible, although some sort of super threads for certain opinions could be of benefit, even if they are mini echo chambers. Again the soccer forum benefitted greatly from not allowing opposing fans to crash into club super threads acting like a$$holes.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,010 ✭✭✭✭anewme


    Is that not part of the problem why the site is a Graveyard - too many people won't go into areas of the site such as Current Affairs because of the right wing Agenda in there? A right wing Mod would make it surely worse?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,261 ✭✭✭Packrat


    Could there be an answer to the question I posted earlier pls:

    If as every mod, Cmod, and Admin insists is the case; that there's no left bias amongst the moderation team, - Why in a forum like CA or Politics where some significant % of the posters are right leaning, is there not ONE SINGLE mod, Cmod or Admin who isn't hard left leaning?

    Are there no centre or right leaning posters worthy of modhood?

    Or, as I and others suspect; Is it because it wouldnt be in step with the hard left hegemony which currently exists?

    “The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command”



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,466 ✭✭✭✭Tony EH


    The thing I don't get is why do they even bother staying here? The web is a big place and there's plenty of forums to go to. Staying on here, engaging in victimisation olympics and constantly whinging makes no sense to me.

    It must be absolutely exhausting.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,261 ✭✭✭Packrat


    Another vote for a hard left echo chamber there...

    No, thanks for your suggestion but I've been here 20 years and I'll stay if it's all the same to you, - and even if it isn't.

    “The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command”



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