Tesla Talk

What would you recommend checking @Gumbo ?

Mine is up on Sept 9th but everything seems to be fine.

Hard to argue with that as a service.

Anybody with a sentry pro referral code that ye want used? Apologies if not allowed here, was thinking the Tesla referrals thread would be a better place but didn't want to respect that thread and get people's hopes up

Software is cheap, hardware is not :)

Some hardware, usually a laser and optical sensor, is needed to measure the particulate concentration in the air. If that hardware is already included in the aircon systems, why is it needed for the various modes? I'm not aware of any aircon functionality up to now that needs to know the PM2.5/10 concentrations in order to function.

Form this 2023 TMC post, it seems like the car measures it. Or at least it did on the Model S.

https://teslamotorsclub.com/tmc/threads/particulate-air-quality-inside-the-cabin-measurement.312107/

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I'm about to cancel an order that was promised for delivery verbally by their sales, and on the app, as late August early September. I feel like a bit of a dope cos I sold our car too early in preparation and now it's pushed back to November. It would have been my 2nd Tesla in the driveway (bit sad I know) but I'm going elsewhere now cos I just can't be dealing with their shite and reckon I'll be squeezed to get a December reg in order to keep the 0.99% (which they "promised" today when they rang) Vs reordering for a 251 but risking the 9% tarrif.

Anyway, bit of a rant but I guess from an Irish perspective at least supply isn't keeping up with sales. I have seen quite a few people on the Facebook group talking about being let down so there's definitely loads of people wanting a Tesla that can't get one in a timely manner.

exactly - the only reason for Tesla to bring back the referral scheme, (which they hated in the end and wanted rid of commercially), is that they need it

Tesla sales are down 15.5%, Audi up 1.6% the EV selection down 25%, Mercedes up 7% EV models down 3.5%, VW EV's down 38%,

EV's are not doing as well as last year, plus any fan boi has one and has taken a hit on its value,

At the moment Model 3 looks best value for money EV proposition (if buying new) - Especially when you consider all the features in the car that will be expensive extra in other cars. The only other value proposition is probably MG, but Tesla software and overall ecosystem is vastly superior.

The downside is that you are supporting Elon's antics.

Fair point. I was thinking mainly panoramic sunroof and memory seats (and easy entry etc that comes with it). Both extra options on ID4, as far as I know.

Question about charging improvements that might be possible with current Tesla architecture:

I was watching this video of CATLs new Shenxing Battery which claims 4C charge rate in an LFP battery.

If you look in the video of it in action (using a 600kw charger) you can see it basically charges at above 250kw for the whole of 10-80% (in fact it peaks at about 537kw).

What I'm wondering is if you stuck one of these into existing Tesla architecture (lets say the new Juniper Model Y and it stays at 400v) does it mean in theory you could do a complete 10-80% charge at the full 250kw output of an existing v2/3 Supercharger?

I'm thinking if that is possible it would be a no brainer for Tesla to use (I believe there is talk they are going to). It would probably mean you could do a 10% - 80% charge of an 80kw Model Y in about 13 mins with existing architecture which would be incredible, not a million miles off half the current time.

It would also mean you could stick with existing chargers for a lot longer. I would imagine Tesla have no interest in replacing all their chargers with 500kw+ ones and if they were able to make use of full 250kw charging that would allow them to have really fast charging with existing infastructure.

I drove about 2500km around Europe in my Model Y this summer and while the infastrucure is light years ahead of Ireland (in France especially) pretty much the max charger power of non Tesla chargers is 300kw. If they've just put a lot of these in at service stations etc I'd imagine that's what will be there for the next 5+ years so it would probably make sense to look to batteries that could max out these chargers as opposed to 500Kw+ charging ones which there will be essentially no chargers capable of doing.

Anyway let me know if what I'm suggesting is likely to work with Teslas or if there is some technical issue I've not thought of.

Incidently even with my current LR Model Y and doing some long journeys of about 1000km in a day I found that I needed to stop more than the car did. But if Juniper or future models could get the 10-80% charge time down to closer to 10 mins I think then long range trips would be no slower than ICE for most people. And if they could do that with existing Tesla superchargers 400v architecture that would be an easy win for Tesla.

Nah the model 3 face-lift is the previous model with bits. Tesla aren't wining any design awards for looks never have mostly function over form.

Disagree, the Koreans and Chinese are better put together tbh.

10 years ago no. Tesla even after vehicle 3 in their arsenal still can't get panels or mechanisms right. I personally know various people who've had drop ins or ranger call outs for shakey noises or squeaky nonsense. Very focused on weight and materials and efficiency only recently thinking about the drivers comfort and cabin experience outside of software. That would be more accurate.

The big issue would be warranty and warranty risk. Charging batteries fast is great in demo videos and great when battery has had a full 1 hour to be preheated to ideal temperature. In reality it's a higher risk it may fail after many years.

To also sustain charging rates it's likely wiring between charge port and batteries would need to be upgraded, the batteries themselves may need to be designed to take higher power. The battery cooling system may need to be upgraded to offer better more even cooling. Some of these issues are reduced of the 400 volt battery is changed to 800volt as only half the current flows so thinner wires needed and wires heat less. The cooling issues still persist.

Tesla could probably charge existing cars quicker, but it does increase risks of warranty claims.

A slight limitation of existing superchargers may also be grid limits and power sharing among chargers. If every car takes 250kW for 20+ minutes then it's likely site limits might reduce everyone's rate as presumably the supply to each site is rated that not every car will be drawing maximum power at the same time for a long time.

I've had 2016, 2017 and 2022 teslas, the jump in quality from the 2014 I test drove to the 2016 facelift I bought was a big jump, there was another big jump in 2022 in the 3, and the highland (which I drove to belfast to test drive last year!) is another jump ahead. The quality is improving a lot.