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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 207 ✭✭BuildTheWall


    I was always under the impression that lads in the DF were threaders because there was little to no scope for deployments. Sounds like a good problem to have, frankly you’d be loaded after a 12 month tour, never mind 16.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,726 ✭✭✭✭Larbre34


    DF insta post of an ARW unit in a Polaris M-RZR complete with OEM MG mount and FN 7.62

    A vehicle I had no clue we had.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,122 ✭✭✭✭Esel
    Not Your Ornery Onager


    Do they still have the GPMG in regular use?

    Not your ornery onager



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,111 ✭✭✭sparky42


    The company actually leaked that we had it last year I think during one of the defence expos as they were promoting the vehicle...



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,726 ✭✭✭✭Larbre34


    So I read this evening. Had passed me by at the time.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,033 ✭✭✭roadmaster




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,726 ✭✭✭✭Larbre34


    These few days mark the 40th anniversary of the extraordinary snow storm of 1982 which blanketed the Eastern two third of Ireland in depths not seen for decades prior and only maybe once since.

    The TV report above shows the Air Corps Aerospatiale SA330 Puma (242) busy dropping supplies to isolated locations and ferrying dialysis patients and mothers in labour to hospital. Another four Alouette type, not shown, were tasked to other similar work around the Country, according to the report.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,111 ✭✭✭sparky42


    Never made sense to me from the creation of the Wing that it didn't have something along this line tbh.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,033 ✭✭✭roadmaster


    I presume they will need a helicopter based with them if there is an issue in the irish sea or of the north west



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,726 ✭✭✭✭Larbre34


    Not yet anyway!

    Makes sense that this should be the case. Hopefully it's pursued quickly.

    In America they have Sea, Air and Land Teams. SEALs.

    We can have Farraige, Aer agus Talamh. FATs.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,726 ✭✭✭✭Larbre34


    I was joking....

    But I can't see them being anything other than the ARW / Fiannóglach they already are, that just so happen to do a rotation with the NS. If you divide what is alresdy a very small command, notionally or administravely, then it uses its integrity.

    Presumably within the Wing you have some lads that train to specialise in sniping, or demolitions, or field medical, or negotiation etc. Surely the maritime ops become an enhanced speciality with improved interoperability, but not an actual Naval special operations group doesn't it?

    It does make me laugh though that this is (rightly) being considered, but at the same time any talk of naval helicopter ops being reintroduced is played down by the DoD



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,726 ✭✭✭✭Larbre34


    Well, this is interesting if true.

    Humiliating, but interesting.

    Right in the middle of our Exclusive Economic Zone. And what can we do to oppose it, prevent it, monitor it?

    Sweet **** all.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,162 ✭✭✭jonnybigwallet


    An absolute disgrace. I will post my thoughts on this later,when I've had time to process this.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,033 ✭✭✭roadmaster


    An also the russians have told IAA well in adavance and also its not our soverign teritory



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,111 ✭✭✭sparky42


    I wonder will anyone make it from Shannon to the Russian Embassy to complain about the build up on the Ukrainian border or this exercise?



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,726 ✭✭✭✭Larbre34


    I'd bet any money that the CoS hadn't heard about it yet, at the time of the photo.

    Besides, the DF being fine with it is immaterial, they only do what they're told to by the Civil power, this is a political matter.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,726 ✭✭✭✭Larbre34


    I don't really give a monkeys if it's a section of the yellow brick road.

    It is however our EEZ, the natural resources of which are all ours, to protect, to manage and to exploit.

    While I appreciate that there is a Billion tons of munitions and scrap shipping at the bottom of it from two World Wars, I don't think that's reason enough to now tolerate the Russians dumping another few thousand tons of explosives, chemicals and other dodgy materials into it, just so they can wave their cock around in the current geopolitical situation.

    Yes, it's an EEZ and not soverign territorial waters, but answer me this, how many other European States, NATO or not, neutral or not, would put up with similar in their EEZ, when these exercises have no legitimate value such that they couldn’t be conducted in the Black Sea, the Arctic Ocean or even in mid-Atlantic.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,166 ✭✭✭✭Flinty997


    That's pretty nuts. Even for Russia.

    They are trying to be obnoxious for no good reason.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,726 ✭✭✭✭Larbre34


    I wish it were for no good reason.

    Its being said by analysts on social media that the reasons are two-fold. 1) to distract and divide NATO naval forces to coincide with the coming invasion of Ukraine and 2) to compromise trans-atlantic communications cables at the crucial moment.

    If you care to take your Google maps and plot a sector 240kms S by SW of Bantry Bay and compare it to this below, it will tell you everything you need to know.




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,166 ✭✭✭✭Flinty997


    It's not like they will do anything militarily to block that invasion. At least I don't think the West will.

    I don't think the military rely on those cables. I don't think the Russians will touch them. There would be huge backlash especially economically if they did. They won't want that.

    The distraction is the only thing, but even there the US has enough resources to cover both. Even if the UK didn't.

    The west will only commit a limited amount of resources to covering Ukraine.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,726 ✭✭✭✭Larbre34


    The UK have flown 15 full C-17s of anti-armour gear to Kiev in the last 4 days alone. I'd hate to see what unlimited looks like.

    I'm sure we wouldn't have to ask, but might be an idea to ensure the US has whatever Carrier Strike Group from the 2nd Fleet is operational, to be in or around the Celtic Sea next month.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,166 ✭✭✭✭Flinty997


    2000 light anti tank missiles won't stop the Russians if they decide to invade.

    They are getting arms from all over. Some night say it's too little too late.

    I guess if they can delay them and escalate the conflict. Then it forces a possible stalemate. The Russians will want a quick victory, not a protracted engagement. Though once committed that could change.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,111 ✭✭✭sparky42




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,033 ✭✭✭roadmaster


    Its amasing what you will say when there is a strong army tradation in your town and county. The shinners can really smell the percs and mercs!

    Unfortuantly the irish pubic will tolerate it as time after time they have shown they dont care.

    I find the the whole thing a joke anyway as we (EU) badly need russian gas and they russia badly need are Euros.

    An on top of that we are exporting more beef and lamb then ever to russia



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,033 ✭✭✭roadmaster


    Hmm i think i heard the recuritment tag line below somewhere before

    https://www.stenaline.com/joinus/



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    Cathal Brugha next up for the chop.


    It'll probably follow a predictable schedule.


    - Army leaves at fairly short notice.

    - 3 years pass. Buildings vandalised.

    - Plans announced for redevelopment.

    - Plans voted down because not 100% social houses or listed buildings cannot be touched.

    - 5 years pass. Buildings burn.

    - Plans announced. Voted down. Rinse and repeat. Etc etc



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,166 ✭✭✭✭Flinty997


    Pity they didn't think of building better housing when the soldiers lived in it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,033 ✭✭✭roadmaster


    The writing has being on the wall for a while. They are right to move it. It was built as a barracks of occuption to supress the people not built for a modern defence force.

    They could make room near casement and move units there or they could move the horsey lads out of mckee and built a moderm extenstion with fit for purpuse accomdation for the men and women



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    The presence of the horses there in a city centre barracks has amazed me. In fact the army still having involvement in horses given the financial pressures in other areas has always amazed me.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,162 ✭✭✭jonnybigwallet


    I like army having horses. Used to have a TIP TOP TEAM back in Captain Ringrose's day!



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,166 ✭✭✭✭Flinty997


    We'll we sorry if we go looking for the cavalry and it doesn't arrive.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,158 ✭✭✭Psychlops




  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    It's all odd to me.

    It seems anybody can exercise anywhere they like and operate in any way they like either in the air, on the water or under the water without us being able to observe them.

    We have little ability to airlift anything on or off this island.

    And we've military horses 100 years after ww1.



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    Relax. We're irish and everybody loves us.

    And if anything bad happens we'll get the Brits (the bastards) or the yanks (the bastards) to come in and save us.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,033 ✭✭✭roadmaster


    The only thing is its a government feasibility study so it will take 5 drafts to complete



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,033 ✭✭✭roadmaster


    As mentioned in the other thread about the CoDF , i wonder with the name changes and command and control changes are they thinking of going down the Belgian defence forces set up

    https://m.independent.ie/irish-news/defence-forces-admit-they-cannot-meaningfully-defend-ireland-41292277.html



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,468 ✭✭✭Heraldoffreeent


    Seems to be suggesting a Major General in charge of Air(force) Corps, Army Component and a Rear Admiral as FOCN.

    Doubling size of Navy and possibly Air component, so 6:2:2 ?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,111 ✭✭✭sparky42


    That would certainly go a long way to fixing the issues for the AC/NS.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,033 ✭✭✭roadmaster


    I wonder what Type of aircraft the CoDF are thinking about for interception duties?



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,111 ✭✭✭sparky42


    I wonder will they specify any type or leave it as the "option", I mean I don't see them specifying what ships that they might be talking about for getting to 12.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,111 ✭✭✭sparky42


    I seem to remember that after the WP that raised the suggestion of Primary Radar we had some interest from some of the companies I wonder if anyone kept their offers? Anyone have the list of that?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,111 ✭✭✭sparky42


    A bit more on the Commissions Report, this time on Cyber:

    https://www.irishtimes.com/news/ireland/irish-news/state-to-be-advised-to-establish-military-cyber-command-1.4789385

    Getting these people with those skillsets will be hard even with an increase in pay given how in demand that area is, but long overdue.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,033 ✭✭✭roadmaster




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,111 ✭✭✭sparky42


    From his article:

    If the Rathmines barracks is closed, the Defence Forces will have only one small space in the greater Dublin area, McKee Barracks, an elegant and ornamental Victorian barracks on Blackhorse Avenue now used mainly for Army administration and as the Dublin base of the Army’s equitation school. If one of the Army brigades is still to be stationed in Dublin, McKee Barracks will not suffice.

    I have to say I can't remember this many articles/comments/PR regarding the state of the DF.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,818 ✭✭✭donvito99


    Is it necessary to accommodate a brigade in the city centre?

    The bulk of 7BN and the Eastern Brigade should be located at a new site, the design of which is not handicapped by a Victorian era barracks. Casement isn't a bad idea, and the AC could benefit from those facilities also. Not to mention that co-location is beneficial to operations.

    The ceremonial, HQ, Ordnance Corps bomb squad and a small contingent (a company?) to satisfy Paul Kehoes terrorism concern are all that need to be at McKee (which has better access to the M50 and equal access to the city centre as Cathal Brugha). McKee could also continue to serve the RDF.

    I saw that a figure of €100m, approximately, could be realised from the sale. Let's hope that the maximum is secured for the DF - defence trumps all, including the housing crisis.



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  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 16,664 Mod ✭✭✭✭Manic Moran


    Can the RDF's Dublin population be supported by McKee alone?

    There's an argument for keeping something reasonably centrally located on the South side, even if it's just the armory, a small parade square, and a few admin/office buildings while the rest of the Brugha property is sold off.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,111 ✭✭✭sparky42


    Apart from the fact that the Dublin councils have collectively made it clear in the past that they want Casement for future development, and if we are moving towards more airframes up to and possibility including Fighters then we are likely talking about moving at least some degree of a second base will put other pressure on Casement. There's is also the past history of the failure of development of previous DF bases handed over, and the lack of money going back into the DF from those sales. Add in the historic buildings of the Barracks and I'm doubtful that the number of units that the Greens are claiming would happen.

    If we are talking about substantial changes and increases in the DF then selling off barracks before we've even seen the Commissions report let alone debating it is cart before horse to put it mildly. Closing the Barracks won't materially affect the issues of Dublin's supply issues.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,033 ✭✭✭roadmaster


    I dont think an hour drive makes much of a difference in a terriost attack a typical solider would be like 5th in line to respond id say. The order of responce would probably be like this id say

    1st Poor garda in cotton shirt with a I40

    2nd ARU or armed detective

    3rd ERU

    4th ARW ( F@uked at that stage unless they are in the city

    5th Normal Soldier by that stage its all over

    As for Paul Keohe he can take a run and jump. He alone did more damage to the military then anyone else

    The Defence Forces PR machine has finally got its act to gether i would say there is at least 3/4 articles across the press daily in support of the defence forces lately



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,818 ✭✭✭donvito99


    CB isn't closer to the M50 than Casement, or a new greenfield site. If you want people to respond quickly to incidents in the city centre, or the port (although M50 to port via the tunnel from Casement would not take an hour under blue light escort, even less if you run across the airfield and helicopter there), have a company in McKee. McKee is also a better city centre location for the bomb squad, IMO.

    Granted there has been a lot of money thrown at CB, but there are such things as sunk costs. Starting afresh is easy (or easier) with the potential windfall from the sale.

    The preferences of the personnel in CB at the moment would be interesting, given that retention is paramount. I'd wager the outskirts is as convenient, if not more convenient than a city centre location. Would they prefer modern facilities built for a 21st century army, or retrofitted stables and delipidated accommodation?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,111 ✭✭✭sparky42


    Again how many times has the DF got the full value from barracks they have given up in the past, how much upgrades have been done to others to replace that capacity and how long have the sites been vacant for from the DF moving out? This will not change anything within Dublin regarding housing, but it's a good stunt for Ryan.



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