Zuckerberg regrets bowing to Biden 'pressure' over Covid

I mean, we saw the chief medical officer of this country directly address the country in March 2020 and tell the nation that masks didn't protect people from an airborne virus so they shouldn't buy them and wash your hands instead while medical staff were in the process of desperately hoovering up all the PPE they could find.

We also had our education minister inform us that schools were safe and the virus behaved differently there with the sort of logic even a toddler could realise didn't quite make sense.

Clearly controlling the message is seen as more important than being truthful to the population in a situation like a pandemic so it's not particularly shocking that the US government would seek to silence those who challenge it on things like vaccines.

Maybe it delivered the greater good, maybe it leads to more mistrust.

he lists humour & satire and burying stories based on potential.

whatever your political leaning government shouldn't exert that control over media.

These were the stakes...this is what the Biden administration were trying to prevent.

It was the equivalent of shouting fire in a crowded theatre.

These were the people influenced by the disinformation about covid.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/republicans-died-double-democrats-covid-b2227425.html

exactly, and Instagram is now 1000% worse. So it will be a cold day in hell before I take anything Zuckerberg says at face value or lend it any kind of credibility. He’s a businessman that’s basically it.

But who determines what is blatant misinformation?

Today it may be right, tomorrow it may be wrong. Tomorrow it may be a government you don't like who determines what is blatant misinformation. A lot of the things that have been deemed unquestionable during covid have since been debunked. And a lot of government actions have been exposed in hindsight as less than savoury.

In Germany internal meeting protocols of the RKI (NPHET equivalent) had to be obtained by court order and when provided only heavily redacted versions were given. After several rounds of more court eventually an unredacted version was leaked by a whisteblower. As it turns out a lot of unsavoury government influence and pressure was put on the medical profession in order to rubber stamp political decisions that had no medical evidence behind them. Threat level increases, alleged ICU collapses, claims about the need for mandatory vaccinations due to the spread 'caused by the unvaccinated', mask mandates, vaccinations for the young. Countless things had no medical evidence behind them but were ordered by the government 'because'. That same government tried to control what was deemed misinformation. And to this day countless people will rally behind those governments and their decisions regardless.

Manipulation lurks everywhere. Yes and your friendly home government does it too.

Point stands yes, the study did find vaccines did have an effect, just that it's not as significant as the article paints it and you can't quite pin all of that on vaccines if they were already NEARLY twice as much likely to die before any vaccine was around.

Dishonest, yes, I put a higher burden of accuracy on media, or government, than random dudes on the street. The fact independent was just less stupid than an anti vaxxer doesn't really make me happy about the quality of the reporting here.

One of the most revealing things in that story is that making a donation toward election security is seen as a partisan act against the Republicans. Why would that be I wonder….

What were the conspiracy theroies, haven't a lof of them now turned out to be true? Leo hadn't the balls to recommend vitamin D to peopel in case he was classed as a Trumper, ther polarisation and radicalisation you refer to was a direct result of government interferance in free speech and basic human rights.

It's worth noting that the surpression of Hunter Biden Laptop story by Facebook and twitter which was dismissed as a Russian hoax did in fact turn out to be true and it may have had a bearing on the outcome of the US presedential election result.

My initial reaction when I heard this story yesterday is that Zuckerberg is telling the Democrats to be nice to him or he'll use his site against them.

He's being as petulant as Musk.

You said, "It sounds like he regrets not being able to publish and push conspiracy theories"

You didn't mention what ones though. Hunters laptop was classifed as a conspiracy, it wasn't. Most of the narrative the government was pushing turned out to be nonsense, they litreally made most things up.

Many many conspiracies theories painted the vaccine as poison, heart-failure inducing, DNA-destroying muck. We should all be dead from taking the vaccine by now if the conspiracy theories were to be believed. I believe the conspiracy luddites have now revised their timelines, we will all be dead from the vaccine sometime soon now.

Thanks for the honest post. It does highlight the problem though, one group of people is happy for the truth to be surpressed when it suits their belief. Trump is bad so anything that can be done to stop him is ok even if electing Biden will lead to more wars and deaths. I want to make it make sense but I just can't get my head around that thought process, what did he do to you?

Ukraine is a perfect example. That war is finished straight away if Trump gets back in but we'll shout for Kamala because she's not Trump.🤔

Some anti vax disinformation being posted here.

The HSE survey referenced doesnt state any of the things claimed for it and its data is being completely misrepresènted here.

https://imj.ie/attitudes-towards-covid-19-and-influenza-vaccination-in-healthcare-workers/

He said it, didn't he? If he was in power he'd end the war within a couple of days. More specifically he's also on record for saying the war only started because of Biden's promise of NATO membership to the Ukraine and all the Russia antagonising that went with it.

So presumably he would change that course of action. Probably freeze financial & military support, too.

Zuckerberg and Trump being quoted as saviours of Truth. If they said the sky was blue I’d immediately question what I see.

These lads are not people to quote if you want to make a decent argument about it. It’s not that everything they say is a lie, it’s that they are self serving individuals (politest I can be) who are only interested in promoting information that suits or enriches their own cause.

Oddly enough , I do actually agree that governments lied about parts of covid and I do have my own reservations about the covid vaccine. It’s not even debatable , flip flopping over masks and schools being uniquely “safer” was of particular interest. But I understand governments have to make decisions that maybe unpopular and are loose with facts to get an outcome.

Also, some mistakes were inevitable as it was a crisis , in some cases it was governments doing what they thought was right (remember we didn’t have all the answers at the start). And a lot of pressure would have been on anybody going against the majority, Sweden if I remember correctly being branded a country effectively writing off older people by refusing full lockdowns.

I was pro lockdown cause I believe it certainly made sense early doors while we try and figure out about the virus and how to handle things. I don’t look back with regret (even getting vaccine) as to presume it was all lies and manipulation is a tin foil hat stance. There was chaos and governments trying to manage a crisis never seen in our generation.

They did some things wrong but eventually the world has gone back mostly to the way it was so we mostly survived. It’s more important to reflect on it and see what we can learn rather then make it about conspiracy’s and lies etc. We learn nothing by pointing fingers , if anything this sort of blame game is a regressive tactic , it’s why the Trumps and Zuckerbergs do NOTHING to help , they just cause division as they are not credible witnesses.

Vance has the same opinion, he's doesn't care about it, America first.

Wasn't it Borris scuppered peace talks, it's gone too far now, only way it stops is to defund the Zelenskyy regime and force a deal. Poland has tapped out and isn't giving any more weapons, I think it'll be over before Trump's possible re-election as the last thing Ukraine's donors want is for Trump and Putin to get credit for finishing it. It would be terrible outcome for the EU/NATO.

Enough of the tropes, it's not anti anything, it's simply some of the outcomes of the study, it's damming no matter what way you try and spin it. If you could stop following me around shouting, mins information, disinformation etc I'd appreciate.

https://www.irishmirror.ie/news/irish-news/two-five-healthcare-workers-fear-33529054

You're playing with words to confim your bias, the headline is "Two in five healthcare workers fear Covid-19 vaccine will have serious side-effects"

I said think, the survey says will, the paper says fears, it's all pretty much the same thing, the underlying theme reamins the same. The uptake stats tell the real story and they're abismal.