Republic of Ireland General Discussion Thread 2024 [use match threads for games]

the Georgian keeper moving to Liverpool next season.

ain’t no one bidding 25 million for kelleher so he’s there till next summer.

he’ll move next summer. Wants to move now but he’s in limbo as the asking price is too high

He had a long enough summer to look for/negotiate a move.

Liverpool should do the decent thing and drop the asking price for Kelleher. Or they will on up getting nothing for him.

Is it correct he is on a pretty low wage, football wise?

as a good will gesture, given his loyalty to date and age now.

Moran with a hattrick of assists during Stoke's 5-0 win at Boro.

O'Mahony on the score sheet for Brighton. Doesn't look like Evan is getting any game time

Kelleher needs get his ass out of Liverpool and actually try want be a first choice keeper.

When you hear ex players talk about current crop just happy to play along, Kelleher is the top of the tree.

he has no possibility to leave this summer. No one is paying 25 million for that CV. A lot of Irish fans can’t seem to grasp this.

I have the belief that a lot of fans don’t understand how football contracts work or how the transfer system work. That is the upshot of all this.

There is no buyer, do some fans not realise the important of this? There is no clubs making a bid for kelleher. Yet some fans expect him to force a move. If there was a bidder, kelleher could submit a transfer request. Now, I think Liverpool would just reject the transfer request but submitting an official transfer request where there is no buyer is practically unheard of.

A lot of lads just don’t understand the transfer market.

has any club made a bid for Kelleher this summer?

it changes every thing. You expect a player to be able to move with no one making a bid?

are these quotes from earlier this summer from Kelleher or an imposter pretending to be him

The problem is fans who don’t understand how the transfer system work

He’s never even pushed for a loan deal in all of his time at Liverpool. He seems happy to do nothing.

god where do I start. Please read this post slowly and carefully

• kelleher explicitly says “I’m not silly, Ali is the best keeper in the world” so where are you getting that he is delusional if he thinks he will be Liverpool no. 1. Where are you getting that?
• You don’t know how the transfer system works. What would have happened during the summer more than likely is clubs would have “made enquires” about kelleher. They would have been told that 25 or 30 million is the price and probably given a deadline to make the bid. Clubs would value Kelleher at between 12-15 million. Clubs would have clearly seen that the gap is too wide between the valuations and “moved onto other targets”. The “deal” never got over the first hurdle.
• You seem to have completely ignored the quotes in the article which is basically a come and get me plea to anyone and everyone.

it’s absolutely nothing to do with Kelleher’s agents. Kelleher has 2 years on his contract. His reps come into play if a bid is made that is close to liverpools valuation. That never came close to happening.

I knew from day 1 of the summer transfer window that barring some kind of loan deal with a obligation to buy at a price no club could stomach or barring a highly unlikely move to the Saudi league that Kelleher was locked in.

I know, I was going to highlight this but I knew I would get a “hE hAs No AmBiTiOn” volley in return.

good argument well made

Think the Mamardashvili aspect is perhaps being overstated. He's a talented young player that was available at a surprisingly low fee, and was snapped up and loaned back out - potentially long term - as his value grows. As Richard Huges said at the start of the window, "we'll be opportunistic in the market".

I'm not sure that move really impacts Kelleher's situation - most likely outcome is probably that Alisson signs a new deal (he's already talked of wanting to stay on), Kelleher moves on in a year and is replaced on the bench by Jaros, and that Mamardashvili either stays playing out on loan or is sold for a profit without making a Liverpool appearance while remaining a nice back-pocket option in the meantime just in case.

I agree Kelleher should leave sooner rather than later, but it's also overstretching it to say he has no ambition. The reality is he played 26 games for one of the top teams in Europe last season, won a second cup as the main man, and is playing behind a guy who has a tendency to miss more games than usual for a keeper. I don't think he'll ever be number 1 at Liverpool, but he's in a position where he's also much more than a typical bench warmer, being entirely trusted and relied upon to step in for long stretches.

At 25, and being a keeper, he's got a decade of playing ahead of him. Think we can calm down a bit. This first move is the most important one he'll ever make. It's notoriously hard to move up the levels as a keeper since most teams only start 1, so the opportunities are few and far between. He's in a better position to move to the highest level he can get from Liverpool than he would be if embedded as a starter in a worse job. It may be that the options right now simply are not great - the only Prem teams looking for starting keepers were Ipswich and Southampton - and that by waiting a year a space opens up at a better club that he can step into.

And three important players for us too in Szmodics, Ogbene, and O'Shea. Hopefully Harness and Taylor continue to pick up minutes.

But for Broadheads hamstring I'd say Harness would have already moved on tbh. Taylor is 5th in line for the 2 DM spots so will be tight to see if he moves on or not.

I see Todd Cantwell has handed in a transfer request at Rangers to force through his move to Blackburn as he wants to leave Rangers.

How is that possible players are hostages?

To be honest I don't think that's too bad a price. It's the price of a good premier league starting goalkeeper, and I think his long stint in goal last season (as well as his two winning cup runs) cemented him as a premier league quality starting goalkeeper. The only issue is that not one team that was in the Premier League last season was in the market for a goalkeeper this summer. Southampton need someone with Bazunu injured, and Ipswich bought a poor enough one on the cheap. So his options would be championship or abroad. In that context, probably better off waiting for one of the better PL teams to need someone.

I think it’s an extremely high price for a goalkeeper with 14? League starts

Ramsdale gone to Southampton so that spells trouble for Bazunu when he's fit again. I guess that'll be 2025 anyway but he'll be back up keeper.

Southampton signing Ramsdale for £25M is bad news for Bazunu.

19yr old Joe O'Brien Whitmarsh and 18yr old Romeo Akachuckwu on the bench too for Southampton.