Vice President Kamala Harris vs Donald Trump 2024

but other than all that, Trump seems a top guy. He says he will make america great again (?), and gives out red hats

I view Harris as a highly capable politician and think she'd be a good president. I also think overall Biden was a good president, better than expected even. I had issues with his policies on Israel but would apply to any US president.

Point 3 is an interesting one, because I feel it sort of suggests a degree of self-awareness in a MAGA supporter. It's almost like they know that Trump support can't be honestly defended in debate settings like on here, so they'll hide their preferences in order to wedge in a pro-MAGA viewpoint when they can.

Your typical: "I don't like Trump but…." person.

What facinates me is that in order to hide your MAGA membership you'd have to eventually examine why you are hiding it. Is there enough self-awareness that they subscribe to a movement that can't be defended? What kind of mental energy needs to be engaged to force yourself to ignore the harsh light of reality to stay on Team MAGA while play-acting as someone who isn't?

I wonder if it goes deep into our primal need to belong to a group. Maybe it's also the whole "sunken cost" thing, that after a decade of MAGA nonsense, some people might not like to admit that they pissed away a sizable chunk of their life? I'm certainly not happy spending the same amount of time debating the fundamentals of reality with neo-facisits instead of spending that time trying to debate ways to actually improve things.

If we still belong in the "good" reality, and Harris beats Trump, we'll hopefully see the end of MAGA in the coming couple of years. After that time there will alas be a lot of lost & angry people out there, who can hopefully be helped.

In politics if a candidate had been found to commit rape, you would be absolutely correct to criticise that candidate and those who support them. It's a no-brainer.

If those supporters waved it away and pointed to a far lesser indiscretion in some other candidate - you'd nail them.

If a candidate I supported was found liable for sexual assault, or was found guilty of fraud, or was complicit in supporting an insurrection - I wouldn't have a leg to stand on.

This is why people don't bother defending Trump here, they simply can't, so instead they resort to carrying out an act of "being impartial" and attacking much more minor things about opponents.

You quoted Dohnjoe, yet not exactly proving him wrong though?

I mean you evaded Tony's question twice, and I assume once I ask, you'll evade it a third time, so we will just surmise you hope for a Trump win in November

So which of Project 2025's policies do you agree with?

Ok, what positive things does Trump bring to the ticket?

The floor is yours as they say.

By the way, you asked what does Kamala bring, I gave you a summary of her achievements to date, did you have anything to say to it?

I've no idea where you got this idea that Harris would be bad at the job of president, she has excelled in everything she has done so far and is as qualified as someone could be for the job.

We know trump is a very bad president as objectively rated against all other presidents.

I think that South Park episode went completely over your head (unless you were talking about the newer one which reveals "trump" as an ex-transgender character who didn't want to run and purposely did as bad a job as possible so they wouldn't get elected but dumb americans kept voting for them anyway).

You are remarkably free with your critical \ negative opinions of Harris.

Yet even the mildest of criticisms of Trump has to be dragged out of you reluctantly, after being pressed on the point by other posters.

There is zero balance in your posts, or attempt to set common standards that you will discuss both candidates on.
It is a flag which usually translates someone being a closet Trump supporter.

If you are not a Trump supporter, you're doing a good impression of one.

And if you are not a Trump supporter, why would you get so defensive about it and be so free with opinions of Harris and not Trump. Otherwise, your posts come across making contrary points for the sake of it.

Yes absolutely. Feel free to list out some of Kamalas flaws.

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