Is Dublin really safe?

I thought people were talking about the general state of the area around O'Connell street and its surrounds. There are plenty of lovely parts of Dublin. Most of Dublin actually. But pointing to them is not doing anything to prove that the city center has not gone majorly downhill the last few years. You only have to go for a walk there and see. But I appreciate that many are desensitized to it as they see it every day and think its normal.

I don't disagree with that. Every few years in the tourist off season, quiet months like January/Feb, I'll head to Dublin for a weekend just to visit the national gallery, but otherwise it's a quickabout turn as I simply don't enjoy the junkie culture that's now embedded into the city centre.

But I can catch classical concerts all around the country without having to wade in the miasma of junkiedom.

I've been but you seem to be unaware that its orchestra tours.

That is an absolute crock of Sh1t of post. Tell me what beach is in Dublin city centre? Not beaches in Howth, Sutton, Portmarnock, Sandymount, tell what beach is in walking distance from Dublin city centre? All you have done in your post is describe something that would be in some tourist guide for visitors to Dublin City.

Do you really think that someone living in the city gets home from work and says do you know what I think I will head to the Musuem for a few hours or some lad living in the flats around Gardener Street or Cumberland street or up around Mountjoy Square is going to say to his mates "Lads, the RTE concert Orchestra are playing the national concert lets all head over?". You are living in cloud lala land if you think people living in the city centre do that.

You don't have to insult everywhere outside the M50 to deflect from the fact that Dublin has an off putting junkie culture problem. Do you really believe that Dublin = Ireland?

I used to enjoy a trip to the national concert hall, combined sometimes with trips to the Chester Beatty, National Museum and National Gallery, etc…

But the last time I was living and working in the city before the pandemic I hardly visited any of them as the junkie jamboree put me off going out after work.

The lockdowns merely revealed what many knew already, control of the core had been ceded, and it's gotten worse since.

Outside the M50.

We have electricity and indoor plumbing. The donkey failed its NCT though.

Seriously citing beaches as a reason to visit Dublin is nonsense when there's so many options around the country. We have coffee outside the M50 too.

You're calling one part of Ireland a kip, a hole, a dumping ground and making light of addiction problems with your "junkee jamboree" phrases etc.. and now you're getting offended because someone points out someone didn't tour somewhere else?

Where do you live?

I am from experience calling one part of the nations capital an unattractive offputting crime infested hole.

Even our Minister of Justice can't go there without a supplemented security detail.

My experience of Lisbon is being offered drugs every 30 seconds or so by gypsies, it's really annoying.

Beaches in a capital city are amazing amenities. Kayaking, sea swimming, winging, beach combing, sailing, kitesurfing, surfing etc… Not every capital city can offer tens of beaches offering amazing sports and activities. One of which is sitting on an amazing wildlife sanctuary island. A lot of which are reachable by public transport. There are hundreds of clubs and businesses directly involved with the sea in the capital, for some the sea is a way of life or even a lifestyle. They may not be important to you, but to Dubliners and the millions of people from outside Dublin that live here, beaches are an integral part of our lives. 

I was expecting it too, but what I wrote was my genuine experience and informed opinion. I am sad to say it, but we have made a total mess of managing Dublin city, over many years.

Grand if you live in Dublin, but you're missing my point about it being a reason to endure the Dublin junkie jamboree.

There's beaches all along the east coast, Dublin doesn't have an monopoly on them and considering our amazing options on the island, most peacefully empty without hoards and traffic congestion.

Actually now that I think of I knew a Dub once who always preferred taking the family to Youghal just to get away from the oversubscribed Dublin spots.

Im from within the M50 and I live just outside it now and I work in the city center. I dont get all this comparing or even cherry picking other parts of Dublin. There are plenty of really nice parts of Dublin.

I think when people talk about Dublin not being safe its the city center. It doesnt take much intelligence at all to see whats going on there and to realize that what was once on the up, has been getting worse by the week for a few years now.

I had an old college friend visit me a few weeks ago and although he's living in a decent Dublin suburb he's applying everywhere for a new job or transfer that will take the family out of Dublin. Even though they used to live in one of the culturally interesting parts of Dublin since the pandemic he just doesn't go back there as he feels it's gotten out of control.