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Is Dublin really safe?

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,911 ✭✭✭BlueSkyDreams


    I dont think its that. Its that some people label the entire Dublin area as if its all like O'Connell St or Talbot St.

    As other posters have said, there are lots of really nice areas in Dublin where the issues you see in the north inner city are just not a thing.

    The best areas of Dublin are nicer than anywhere else in the country. Those that can afford to live there, choose to do so over anywhere else in Ireland.

    If you are lucky enough to live in a nice part of the capital, you are spolit for choice in terms of services, events, nightlife, festivals, retail, infrastructure, schools, job opportunities and so on. Not to mention the beaches, seafront, sailing clubs, mountains, forests and parks.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,500 ✭✭✭yagan


    This is the problem with this thread title, it isn't specific.

    If the thread title was "Is …(insert any of the nice Dublin suburbs) really safe?" and the overwhelming answer would probably be yes.

    If the title was "Is the north inner city safe?" then we'd have people from safe Dublin burbs piling in.

    All this means is that north inner city is as much a dumping ground for Dublin suburbs as it is for the rest of the country.

    In this respect the junkie jamboree isn't just a Dublin problem, it's a national problem.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,500 ✭✭✭yagan


    You forget to mention that people choose to move to Dublin for the congestion too.

    Obviously I elected to leave Dublin because I'm bitter, or something.

    It wouldn't have anything to do with it being a poorly planned transport underinvested gridlock?



  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 27,188 Mod ✭✭✭✭Podge_irl


    Most of the North Inner City is absolutely fine. I've been hearing this nonsense about it since I was a child.

    There are a few, localised areas that have clear substance abuse problems. Though they are also not particularly "unsafe".



  • Registered Users Posts: 76 ✭✭elstingeo


    Dublin City and county itself is safe. It depends where someone is. If you were to travel to another city, then I’m sure you could find many unsafe areas of any city.

    Exercise common sense and you’re fine. It isn’t very fair to question the safety of a certain city if you haven’t taken the time to exercise common sense, accepted the associated risks with being in a city compared to a rural area and also realised that nowhere is inherently safe in todays world unless you want to live in a bubble?

    I am in Dublin all the time and I’m fine. I travel to the city, I’m on the luas, I walk around. No problems.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 23,866 ✭✭✭✭Kermit.de.frog


    O'Connell Street is supposed to be the country's main street. Like it or not that is the image that first greets most visitors to the city whether local or tourists and that's the image they take away with them. It's not great, is it? It's an absolute disgrace the state of that area. A national embarrassment.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,833 ✭✭✭John_Rambo


    Really? I know loads of fellow wind sports people that had choices of various cities in which to work in in Europe and Ireland but chose Dublin because of the beaches.

    I actually spent a few hours on Dollymount strand last night with a few of them for food & a couple of glasses of wine and some catch ups. Stunning night. Ships & boats coming in and out of the bay, nice sunset, very few people around.

    Beats hammering away on your keyboard in a rage!!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,500 ✭✭✭yagan


    That's Dublin's secret sauce, windsurfing.

    You win the internet.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,500 ✭✭✭yagan


    Interesting piece in the journal today about reasons for people emigrating.

    I'd discount those in their 20s as I and my cohort were far from wanting to settle at that stage. However for those in their 30s and 40s the push factors resoundingly seem to be housing affordability, crap infrastructure and rising lawlessness.

    There is no way I'd have the great quality of life I enjoy now if we hadn't transferred out of it.

    I know this thread is about crime but I feel that's only one thread in a theme of overall decay, or at best stasis.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,278 ✭✭✭suvigirl


    But it's not though, very few tourists go to O Connell St & definitely not the surrounding km2.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,278 ✭✭✭suvigirl


    So, perhaps you shouldn't consider the 2KM2 around the north inner city as a being representative of the whole of Dublin.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,911 ✭✭✭BlueSkyDreams


    Yep, I agree with you on that 100%.

    My point was that for local people living in Dublin, O'Connell St doesnt affect them unless they live or work there.

    The vast majority of Dublin doesn't interact with O.Connell St.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,500 ✭✭✭yagan


    But it is in dublin.

    I understand that you could live in skerries, or rush as you mentioned before and never or rarely have to be exposed to that area.

    But coming from outside dublin it's hard to avoid considering it's a transport hub for such suburbs.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,500 ✭✭✭yagan


    That's simply not true. Stand outside the Gresham or any of the hotels around and you'll hear lots of tourists.

    The junkies are to them what sucker fish are to sharks.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,833 ✭✭✭John_Rambo


    Lol! You're mistaken (again), but anyway, windsurfing is just one of the many wind sports and attractions that Dublin's beaches offer. It's another cultural facet of Dublin that you may not have been aware of! All you seem to focus on are the negative aspects, as if your vision is fixed on the gutter rather than the vibrant architecture, parks, clubs, restaurants, cafes, museums, theatres, pubs, beaches, mountains, farms, galleries, and so much more that Dublin has to offer.

    Open your eyes, open your horizons. There's more to Dublin.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,500 ✭✭✭yagan


    Yes, but dublin is the only place in Ireland where you can windsurf.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,833 ✭✭✭John_Rambo


    No, you're still not getting it. Dublin is one of the only places in Ireland where you can windsurf in a capital city. Dublin is one of the only places in Ireland where you can work in the city centre for Google or a city centre cafe, or a city centre restaurant, or a suburban bakery and be on the beach in a few minutes. It's the proximity to the city that makes all the difference, do you understand that?



  • Registered Users Posts: 2,325 ✭✭✭MayoSalmon


    Dublin like the whole place or just Mountjoy Square?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,500 ✭✭✭yagan


    Yeah, all the surfer love the Dollymount flats.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,278 ✭✭✭suvigirl


    Thats one hotel, obvs there are tourists beside hotels. In general tourists don't hang around O Connell St because there is nothing there for them.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,500 ✭✭✭yagan




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,278 ✭✭✭suvigirl


    No. And they don't stay on O Connell St either. They go to the tourist areas and do many of the things available to do in Dublin.

    Sorry, but just cos you think O Connell St is a sh1thole (you're not wrong) doesn't mean Dublin isn't safe, or is a 'kip'



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,833 ✭✭✭John_Rambo


    Now you're getting it. Plenty of wind sports people live in apartments in Dublin to be near the coast and be in a city where it's an employees market, where there's a good choice of food, entertainment, culture, bars etc… these people have vision and appreciate what the city has to offer, including the added bonus of the beaches! I know at least eight people that moved from London for this very reason.

    Their and my reality of Dublin is different than your perception of Dublin. You see drugs, they see opportunity, beaches and culture.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,833 ✭✭✭John_Rambo


    double post



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,605 ✭✭✭IngazZagni


    Just witnessed a big fight at a Luas stop on the North side of the city. Lots of blood. What stuck out to me was so many people didn't even bat an eyelid at it. Like it was totally normal. All this taking place in front of young kids. Good grief.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,500 ✭✭✭yagan


    I never really thought of it before but you don't get enough wind outside of the M50 for windsurfing, whereas dublin is full of it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,500 ✭✭✭yagan


    According to posters you're not to notice that but only look at touristy things and windsurfers.

    Dublin will get the reputation as an open air fight club.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,605 ✭✭✭IngazZagni


    As I found this thread. I want to post a picture I took a couple weeks ago on Railway Street outside new social housing. Local teenagers had blocked the road with bins not letting cars through and shouting abuse at others including myself walking through. I even had a bottle thrown at me. I took this photo incognito for my safety. They basically controlled the street. A very hostile environment for anybody in broad daylight.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,419 ✭✭✭dublin49


    In truth it was never great,gaudy amusement /slot machine casinos have been there a long time and no regulation on cheap signage so it hasnt really fallen too far ,just a slow slide .



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,833 ✭✭✭John_Rambo


    OK, you're wrong again, there's wind everywhere, but there isn't sea and city and wind in the one place (except Dublin)

    So, if you want a city life, you want to live in an amazing coastal area in Dublin with all the amenities AND beaches… Dublin is amazing and safe. You may not like it, but millions do. Millions come here to live, millions come here on holiday.

    We like it.
    You don't.

    Get over it.



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