General Premier League Thread 2024-25

what’s the cutoff? What’s the earning amount at which it’s fine for random strangers to give you abuse in public and make your life miserable, for what is ostensibly playing a game?

I can somewhat understand it in the case of someone who has made conscious considered decisions to make peoples lives worse, like a right wing politician or asset-stripping business owner, but justifying giving that sort of public in-your-face abuse to a lad who’s demonstrably trying his best but just struggling to perform on a field is nuts to me and says a lot more about the abusers than the fella kicking a ball around as best he can.

Well fans get pissed off with players who are not performing. I'd be guessing it's a fan that did it but I could be wrong. Two heavy defeats will get to a good few fans.

When did it happen, was it after a game or some other time? If it was after a game, like the same day, then it's more understandable. I don't like it even at a game tbh.

Why is a guy earning that money going on a train? I'm earn ordinary money and for security reasons I never take a train.

I dint think any Premier league footballer should be taking a train for their own safety.

Stones in glass houses with Maupay

I thought it's quite common for Northern clubs to use the train when travelling to London. I know Liverpool do too, and I think I've seen Man Utd use the train too. It's certainly more eco-friendly, economical, and probably more efficient on time too. It certainly beats clubs taking a 25 minute flight. And Everton need those cost-savings!

The players should be getting abuse either way. Of course, be frustrated at how they played in a match, inside the stadium. But outside of that they are regular people and should be treated accordingly. You can't just walk up to someone in the street and roar abuse at them.

Just saw it now, and this is 100% what happened. Dan Burn has played the man, not the ball, and the goal should have stood. Interesting to see Eddie Howe actually saying that they got away with one there. Normally managers aren't that honest.

This is when they are expected to be released, but these dates are not always adhered to.

I reckon Arteta knows him from the City days and thinks he can use him effectively. Plus with Nelson going on loan we are a bit light on the wings. Plus it's only a loan.

Normally I'd say big gamble, but I thought the same about Havertz, so what do I know?

Managers signing their ex players, or players they previously worked with, does not work out well.

Arsenal themselves should know this from how the Zinchenko & Gabriel Jesus deals worked out. They bought new players in the same position within 12 & 24 months.

And well, look at Ten Hag at assembly of ex-players.

I'm fairly sure I'm correct in saying that the only 3 managers who have won the league in the last 10 years didn't re-sign a player that they had previously worked with. Maybe it's longer than that?

Sterling for a small loan fee is an absolute no brainier for Arsenal. He's coming in as a squad player who is miles better than Nketiah and Nelson

Martinelli, Trosssrd. Havertz, Jesus. Why would you need a big name behind them? Then you've got Odegaard and Merino who can both play attacking midfield through the centre. As I said, unless he's coming in to back up Saka there's no good reason to take him. And he's rarely played on the right for a long time.

Apparently Arsenal didn’t even have to pay a loan fee or 100% of his wages.

Martinelli has been disappointing the last 12 months or so. A year or two ago he looked every bit as good as Saka, but hasn’t kicked on. Not sure if Sterling is the answer, but if he’s on form he’ll be an improvement on Martinelli’s current form. Plus it might be the kick that gets Martinelli going again.

Sterling can also cover right to give Saka a break. Saka can’t play every game when the CL kicks off.

For all that Trossard is an excellent sub, he’s not good enough to be a regular starter in a top 4 team.

Trossard has a wonderful record for goals with a limited playing time. It will be annoying watching Sterling play for Arsenal, I find them a whingy team at the best of times and now we’ll have Sterling tuning around being knocked over by someone’s shadow! But it’s a decent deal for Arsenal.

Brighton are niggly enough themselves

What's Rice's second yellow for here?

Ref has made weird decisions all game so this is not surprise at all. Main character energy

On no planet was the first half tackle a red. Good grief.

Its a second yellow, no question. Clever by Veltman, but correct.

As for the central defender debate….Saliba is excellent. Slightly ahead of Gabriel. But VVD is the best in the league still.

TNT seem to have a different opinion than you. Everywhere I see is reporting it as for kicking the ball away.