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What’s your most controversial opinion? **Read OP** **Mod Note in Post #3372**

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,293 ✭✭✭Cordell


    We humans have very little in the way of natural defenses against the elements like sun, rain, heat, cold. That's why we wear clothes and don't expose ourselves naked to the elements. I mean, there are also other reasons, but you know what I mean.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,563 ✭✭✭✭castletownman


    I have zero interest in the Paralympics.

    Its the sporting equivalent of following up a sun holiday (the Olympics) with a damp, miserable day upon landing back in Dublin.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,075 ✭✭✭eightieschewbaccy


    Wouldn't agree at all tbh. They're still athletes who hit peak physical conditions in spite of their disabilities. It's genuinely incredible. You obviously aren't required to be interested but from a sporting perspective, it's very much a great thing.



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Ironically having a tan was very undesirable and considered a trait of the working class by the gentry, back in the day when the gentry only took to walking around outside under parasols to shade their beautiful bleached white skin from the sun. Pale was refined and wealthy. It was also why they applied rouge to their lips and cheeks as it signified healthiness. (or at least that they weren't dead) Tanning only became fashionable in the last couple of decades as it became associated with fitness and athleticism.

    My CO for today is that 95% of people (mostly women) who get work done on their face (lips, eyes, cheeks etc) are worse looking for it and look unnatural . It's rare that it actually improves things. I put this down to the types of people who get it done in the first place. Most don't need it. Pure misguided vanity.

    You would be very surprised at the amount of people who have work done, it's today's version of going to a hair salon for a cohort of people. Botox and dermal fillers are practically the norm.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,513 ✭✭✭AllForIt


    Yes we were told that at school as well as about plump women being the most sexually desirable back in the Victorian era.

    That generation would have loved to live in our times where plump is more plentiful 😆



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,627 ✭✭✭kowloonkev


    I don't know why they put the proper Olympics on first. It's like Oasis supporting Louise Morrissey or something.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,627 ✭✭✭kowloonkev


    I think having a tan is still very much a trait of the working classes.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,737 ✭✭✭✭Princess Consuela Bananahammock


    That was more or practical reasons: plump women were considered to be capable of bearing more children than thin women.

    Everything I don't like is either woke or fascist - possibly both - pick one.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,918 ✭✭✭mrslancaster


    We should have an exit / departure tax for every person leaving the country.

    Not sure how we'd control that for anyone leaving through airports or ferryports in the north though. Maybe anyone leaving the island might work?



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  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    I sat looking at my flipflop feet on the coffee table earlier and if I didn't know any better I'd say you might be correct.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,059 ✭✭✭randd1


    The ar5e is going to fall out of soccer within 15 years.

    It's at the point of saturation, and unless there's rules brought in, the Super League will become a reality and with it the decline of the sport, and possibly the permanent decline of international soccer.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,293 ✭✭✭Cordell


    the permanent decline of international soccer can't come soon enough. They're a bunch of grossly overpaid uneducated cnts and FIFA and UEFA a bunch of gangsters.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,019 ✭✭✭Iscreamkone


    I love the grossly overpaid comments.
    Some players may be paid a lot - but every club will pay players as little as they can get away with.

    Maybe at the top level formal education might be low. But anyone playing at the top level is intelligent- tactics, s&c, nutrition, finance.

    FIFA and uefa may seem like gangsters to you but the game has never been so popular across the globe.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,019 ✭✭✭Iscreamkone


    What’s wrong with a Super League?

    Best teams + best players playing against each other more regularly. Sounds great. If the public won’t pay to watch on tv then it won’t work… but they will pay because it will be SUPER



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,737 ✭✭✭✭Princess Consuela Bananahammock


    iIt only works if you level the playing field a bit. Even City v Real has gotten boring.

    Everything I don't like is either woke or fascist - possibly both - pick one.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,522 ✭✭✭Hoop66




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,293 ✭✭✭Cordell


    FIFA and UEFA are gangsters, that's what they are. They are selling a very popular product, and that's not uncommon among gangsters.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2015_FIFA_corruption_case



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,059 ✭✭✭randd1


    To be honest. I'm warming to the notion of a Super League, but not in the format it was proposed. The only problem with it is that a Super League would likely have to have some method thrown in to make sure any one team can't dominate and every side has a very equal chance of success (like the NFL). Can't see the likes of United, Arsenal or Liverpool fans being happy finishing last every year as the small fish, never mind others.

    I think it would also be a great chance for domestic leagues around the world to reset without the bigger clubs blocking them from making more equal adjustment.

    I think soccer needs a bit of a reset in general.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 934 ✭✭✭sock.rocker*


    Broadly speaking, men get better at new relationships whereas women get worse.

    A 35-year-old man going into a new relationship will usually be a better version of himself at 25. More cooking / cleaning, less going out, more home-focused etc. Practically every man I know around this age is a better version of themselves. A 35-year-old woman going into a new relationship is usually going to be a more independently-minded and more cautious thanks to previous bad experiences.

    Basically, men drift towards being more capable of being a good partner over time whereas women drift towards being more independent. Anecdotally, basically all the 35+ year old single women I know seem to be really proud of being independent and single. No single men I know gain any self-worth from being single. "I don't need a man" is a common idea in popular culture. It's seen as powerful and independent. There is nothing powerful about a man saying they don't need a woman.

    There's also a really common notion amongst women that a man has to be equal to them or better, whereas it's pretty well-established that men don't care about a woman's education / wealth / job etc. I think this becomes more pronounced for women as they get older with "What does he bring to the table?" being asked while men don't require that their new partner meet some standard.

    I think society has a really simplistic "younger women have more value because they're hotter and more fertile" take on dating and age gaps etc., but I think it's more nuanced and has more to do with attitudes and attachments to independence. I think for men, a 25-year-old woman is easier to date than a 35-year-old, and for women, a 35-year-old man is better to date than a 25-year-old.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,634 ✭✭✭✭El_Duderino 09


    Single older women are happier than single older men, according to research I've heard about. Men become more dependent on their partner than women do.

    Makes sense that men would knuckle down and try to be a man women want to keep if women are happier being independent.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,834 ✭✭✭suvigirl


    Yeah, you often see widowed/divorced men starting a new relationship quickly. Many more women are happier being single. Many men just can't cope alone?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,634 ✭✭✭✭El_Duderino 09


    I've heard it's to do with women having and maintaining better relationships with friends family and even children than men do. So later in life they are happier being independent than men.

    More older Men will say their best friend is their wife than the other way around. So if a spouse dies or relationship breaks up, women do much better than men because they have more life outside their relationship.

    It's just what I've heard.

    Post edited by El_Duderino 09 on


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,457 ✭✭✭Jack Daw


    The new champions league format is a massive improvement on the old one.

    Having to play 8 different teams in the group stage as opposed to 3 means much greater variety of matches which creates more intrigue.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,457 ✭✭✭Jack Daw


    Who cares what Man Utd, Liverpool fans think.The entire problem of european football is that it is catered to the whims of the biggest clubs far too much and any of the governing bodies are stopped from making the bigger teams less powerful.

    Football all across europe both domestically and at a european level has been destroyed by money it's made it incredibly uncompetitive and the sense of achievement is gone from the sport. The teams who win things should be winning them and it's no big deal when they do whereas when teams were on a more even keel up to the early to mid 90's you felt like the achievement of winning was a genuine achievement.

    Real Madrid, Man City etc winning is not an achievement even for the players as they're playing with a stacked deck.The achievement for the players is being good enough to play for those top teams not the actually winning of trophies for them which is largely a formality.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,695 ✭✭✭cms88


    How long have people been saying this? Probably every 10 years or so and it's still nowhere near close to happening.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 306 ✭✭89897


    Honest question, what about the womens side in what you've said makes it worse?

    As far as I see not settling and knowing what they want makes them better in relationships. Easier does not mean better.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,627 ✭✭✭kowloonkev


    The proof will be in the pudding. I'm not an expert on it but what happens in the last two or three match days if some teams are qualified and some are out of it?

    Maybe it makes it more interesting for match going fans, but you're still going to end up with the same teams qualifying as every other year, so it's more games for the same outcome.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,120 ✭✭✭eggy81


    Need to put subs back to three and limit first team squads to 18 players announced at start of season. Can be changed at Christmas. If a player drops out through injury the his place is taken by a player from the youths. This shite of having 2 or 3 world class players for every position needs to stop. The European competitions should be aiming to reduce games not increase them. As with everything else in the world now it’s purely about money.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,120 ✭✭✭eggy81


    It’s amazing that even with half the continent illegally watching games through streaming it’s still absolutely raking in the cash.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,563 ✭✭✭✭castletownman


    People complaining about the ticket system crashing for the Oasis concerts must be thick. Sure they're part of the problem. Everything nowadays is 'I MUST HAVE NOW'- there's no patience anymore, only greed. You'd wonder how there were any concerts at all before the advent of online purchasing. At least then you had to physically queue for a ticket. And there'd be no crying if you were unsuccesful.

    You can be sure they'll immediately log onto Amazon then to stockpile shite, and if they are lucky enough to get a ticket, will probably spend half the concert looking at it through their phones.

    My heart bleeds for the poor craturs.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,000 ✭✭✭✭gormdubhgorm


    I saw a small bit of a the paralympics opening ceremony, lots of flames and choreography.

    It was argueably better than the olympics one.

    But I immediately thought of this film when I saw all the flames etc - same orange glow.

    Then I could not get it out of my mind and I was almost expecting a sacrifice, when the blonde paralympian with two artificial legs was at the part of the opening ceremony on a plint with a flame. I thought don't stand there have you not seen The Temple of Doom?

    (Image from still of video).

    Guff about stuff, and stuff about guff.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,952 ✭✭✭Greyfox


    No, its you who doesn't understand the complaints. People understand that the system crashed due to demand but that doesn't mean people are not allowed to feel that a better system should of been in place like closing the queue earlier.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,457 ✭✭✭Jack Daw


    Lot of complaining about the price of Oasis tickets and in fairness they are extortionate however considering the way the music industry has gone and bands can't make much money from physical media sales (as nobody buys cds anymore) and they make almost nothing from streaming (which is how most people consume music these days), it doesn't seem unreasonable to me for them to make back what should be rightfully theirs by overcharging for live performances and charging much more than was the case in the past.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,062 ✭✭✭✭Strumms


    you can imagine the merch sales in Croker…Oasis on their website they sell very standard T-shirts for 35 euros.

    It’s not inconceivable that over 2 nights they’ll sell about 20,000 shirts

    That’s around 700,000 revenue in T-shirts over 2 nights, the vast majority of that is profit. Looks to be a dirt cheap Tshirt with a printed logo, set list or tour dates….they’ll have scarfs, hats, lanyards, programs and all the other shït too. So a major cash grab…



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,358 ✭✭✭✭NIMAN


    Don't forget, they are selling 160,000 tickets at an average of what, say €200.

    That's 32mill for tickets, another 1mill for merchandise.

    To put the concert on for those 2 nights is costing a fraction of that. It's simple profiteering by the band and promoters, end of. But hey, it's the free market we live in, no-one is being forced to buy a ticket. They are handing over the money willingly.

    They will do Slane too, that's nailed on now.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,000 ✭✭✭✭gormdubhgorm


    Another Paralympic one, I think Joanne O'Riordan should not be doing analysis/punditry for it. She seems like a nice girl well meaning, a mouth on her well able to talk. But she has never played any sport for obvious reasons.

    Most of her comments on the participants start with "I would imagine that".

    Her sole "qualification" to be there is that she is disabled. But she has no real knowledge on any of the sports at all, from what I can tell.

    I much prefer listening to former or current paralympians talking about a sport/their sport. O'Riordan on the other hand is bluffing talking in generalities what things "might" be like.

    Guff about stuff, and stuff about guff.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,563 ✭✭✭✭castletownman


    My controversial opinion, I find O'Riordan very annoying.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 231 ✭✭Charlo30


    Are some of the ticket prices for Oasis a complete rip off. Absolutely. But nobody is being forced to buy them. If someone spends a few hundred quid on a ticket to see them. That's on them. So I'm not interested in hearing them complain about the price.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,563 ✭✭✭✭castletownman


    Exactly, everything these days are seen as an entitlement or rite of passage rather than a privilege.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,051 ✭✭✭NewbridgeIR


    ”Nobody buys CDs anymore”

    While physical copies only account for 11% of album sales, the following is relevant.
    New CDs still outselling new LPs in UK, Germany, Japan & Australia. Vinyl ahead in the US. This is based on unit sales NOT revenue.

    BTW I buy both formats & am not Born Again.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,457 ✭✭✭Jack Daw


    But the overall number of CD's Vinyl etc being bough is well down on where it was in the 90's and early 2000's

    Artists don't make anywhere near the money they used to from physical sales.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,312 ✭✭✭✭EmmetSpiceland


    Does anyone know if Oasis are getting a set amount from each ticket sale or do they get more when Ticketmaster inflate the price for certain tickets, as they see fit?

    “It is not blood that makes you Irish but a willingness to be part of the Irish nation” - Thomas Davis



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,062 ✭✭✭✭Strumms


    politics / social issues and sport should be completely separate. Sport should be a getaway from all that.

    Watching my team Bohemians scraping to avoid ending up in relegation playoffs yet all throughout the year and before the club and fans espousing this cause, that cause, this charity, that charity, all over their website, social media, almost elevated in importance to what’s happened on the pitch….and they’ve been allowing certain persons attend matches for free all whilst they have had to sell their historic ground to pay off debts and now, almost getting relegated … 🤨 🤔🤦🏻‍♂️

    Maybe run the football club, like a football club ⚽️🏆 …and not a social / political movement that just happens to have a football team and ya wouldn’t be in the mire…..



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,641 ✭✭✭✭whisky_galore


    Nothing like the opportunity to make millions of pounds to bring two feuding siblings together again. Some grift.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,457 ✭✭✭Jack Daw


    The people who run Bohs (and they're social media) seem to be more interested in fishing for clout on line rather than caring about how the team performs.Feels like they care more about being seen as everyone's favourite little socially conscious club (but only conscious of trendy lefty causes) than about being a football club that is successful.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,051 ✭✭✭NewbridgeIR


    Yes, physical music sales are significantly lower than the peak but seem to have bottomed out at around 10-15% of overall album sales. Most new albums still get a physical release & there are loads of reissues still coming out on both formats. Interesting that you said “nobody buys CDs anymore” but didn’t mention vinyl. The latter gets all the headlines even though CDs are outselling LPs worldwide. The average price of a new album on vinyl is €30, the CD is around €14. So if a shop sells 200 vinyl albums that’s revenue of €6,000. Whereas 300 CD sales equals revenue of €4,200. So you can guess what format will get the positive coverage….



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,634 ✭✭✭✭El_Duderino 09


    Isn't that the social media team's job? I mean, do you want the social media team running drills and selecting the team?

    Look, they have to play, and get people to watch. Clubs need an ethos and a community based community on values. You can't disaggregate a club from it's culture, and culture is usually tied to politics.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,078 ✭✭✭Quantum Erasure


    In fairness to Joanne O'Riordan, I think shes had a sport column in the Irish times for about 6 years, (not sure if she still does it tho)

    I caught a bit of the wheelchair rugby on rte, and they went back to the pundits in studio, presenter asks one of the lads 'so, wheelchair rugby, what did you think of that?' and yer man says, 'well, I'm blind so i didn't see much, but it sounded exciting...' not sure who he was but im sure he was probably a former paralympian



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,062 ✭✭✭✭Strumms


    people won’t be paying through the turnstiles to watch shitè football, and watch a team almost get or get relegated whilst they see the money they spend on and at the club, pissed up the wall…. The overriding ethos sane people want to buy into, as regards sport is supporting their team and it becoming successful and winning matches and trophies….value winning. Bohs have an average attendance of around 4,200 people, if they were more successful that will increase, more revenue, more potential for ongoing success.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,634 ✭✭✭✭El_Duderino 09


    Maybe. And maybe they just value their values.



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