Oasis Reunion. Its finally happening😱

It seems TM do get a cut of the ticket revenue. Interesting read this one.

https://www.theguardian.com/music/article/2024/sep/01/oasis-tickets-dynamic-pricing-live-music

They use dynamic pricing in the US but I think this is the first time it was used in Ireland. They have some many labels on tickets it was confusing to see what was what.

So will oasis announce extra dates for Ireland? I only know one person that got tickets and id say that he couldn’t name 2 oasis songs!

All we have at the moment is The Sun saying yes and The Mirror saying no.

If they make money from doing so and they've developed functionality on-site to support dynamic pricing - you're frankly naive if you think it's not in their interest to do so.

In their interest to do so? Yes.

Can they do it without the artist consenting and agreeing to the price strategy and dynamic pricing? No.

If so when do you think that they will announce it? It will probably be just as difficult the next time

Your guess is as good as mine

First time I heard of them was when I heard my uncle paid 1200 euro for 4 Michael Buble tickets in three arena about 2 or 3 years ago.....he thought he was getting VIP tickets as a treat for family. When I looked it up and told him neither if us could make proper justification of the platinum explanation, didn't make sense then but it does now.

It's price segregation, you see it every day in supermarkets, if you value a loaf of bread at 2 euro there is a 2 euro one there with a well known label, if you value at 1 euro you have an option of a supermarket own brand one. It's the same bread, probably from same bakery. Just packaged differently. Same with hundreds of other products in the supermarket.

Difference here is the frenzy whipped up with the cryptic tweets about an announcement, quickly followed by band reforming and tickets on sale, a feeding frenzy for tickets with no time to think or weigh up your options, just either buy whatever bread was put in front of you or leave hungry and unfulfilled after investing time.

It's not an absolute need to go to a concert, but they knew well how to play people

The ballot system is used for varying reasons. For Swift and Oasis it was almost definitely done to manage traffic (though Oasis did save some for a general sale), I’d say for Rodrigo it’s really useful for her to get that data given her relative inexperience at the time her tour went on sale. God knows why Pearl Jam did it lol.

I was successful in the Pearl Jam and Rodrigo ballots, unsuccessful in the other two. Worth noting I've been on the Oasis mailing list for 3 years as well. I don't like the ballots either

If they add more dates hopefully that's what they do, but in the Mirror today they reported there will be no additional UK and Ireland dates. No idea how true that is.

Ballots are a load of bollocks. I know a lad who was successful in the Ballot who literally is going to Oasis because it's the big gig for next year. I've been at parties with him where he would turn Oasis off.

With technology the way it is is now, people who have kept the Gallagher's going since Oasis split should have been prioritised. Plenty of people have seen the solo acts multiple times and nothing when it came to sales..

looking at all of this in a retrospective way, it looks like the music industry has always been filled with Sharp dealers and snake oil salesmen and nothing has changed. Back in the day you had Peter Grant welding a baseball bat to deal with didgy promoters and it’s not uncommon for bands to be ripped off, especially ones starting out or still small time.
If you’re Noel and Liam and your promoter has a dodgy facility to overcharge punters, you are probably advised to use it by business managers, accountants etc. It’s still down to the band and their decision and it turns out it’s a pretty poor decision. But they likely don’t give a toss.
The game is still being played too. No new dates being added. Fair enough. We can all schlep over to Europe to catch a show there I’m sure the reckoning is. It’s all fuelling demand for the next tour stage.
They may decide on some form of farewell tour for uk and Ireland at the end to hoover up any remaining demand. Who knows.
In some ways I don’t blame the band. If there is a facility like dynamic pricing there, it’s an incentive to use it. There are probably incentives offered by Live Nation also to use it In some ways I do blame the lads though. How much money is enough? You had two good albums. The rest varied from acceptable to scutter. You better hope you make enough to keep you comfortable this time round because you probably can’t keep going back to the well after this.

But how do you determine who deserves a ticket or not ? I keep seeing comments like this

That doesn't stop hundreds of thousands of people being pissed off when they invariably cannot get tickets - which is ultimately the issue here - one can only assume the hundreds of thousands that did get tickets didn't have any issues with the process.

I do agree however - all ticket pricing should be made public prior to people making any decision to go to a website to queue for those tickets.

Yeah, I get that, but publishing the pricing before hand (which I think should be done) isn't really gonna change peoples minds or indeed behaviours for popular events such as this.

Based on the CCPC statement, TM's process of outlining the tickets prior to a person buying them seems to be within current law - again, the person is told before they buy what they will be paying.

"In a statement, the CCPC said that under consumer law in Ireland, people should be clearly informed of the full price of a product, including fees, before they buy.

Its role is to ensure that consumers are provided with clear and accurate information, including booking and related charges before they pay, it added.

"In terms of pricing, there are no price controls in Ireland, apart from in certain, limited areas. Individual businesses can decide on the prices of the products they sell and they are allowed to adjust their prices in response to demand or other factors, once an accurate price is displayed to the consumer in advance of the sale so they can decide if they want to proceed," the CCPC statement said."

From here:

https://www.rte.ie/news/ireland/2024/0901/1467815-oasis-tickets/

(Politician looking to be popular shocker)

Maybe TM could have supported a similar thing to where electric picnic loyalty codes are given to people wh o have gone before

So if like me you'd been to multiple liam and Noel gigs then you could apply for loyalty link

I'm sire there's loads of holes in that idea and no use now but could be a starting point

Regarding that CCPC statement, isn’t the issue that the prices were not stated ahead of time. Irish buyers got a From 86.50 price. You had to look at UK prices to get a grip on the other level prices here. Nowhere I saw anyway had mentioned up front dynamic pricing and the general ballpark prices to expect as a result of that. I think maybe the UK protection authority is a little ahead of the Irish one in that the levels had to be published at least. Here they got away with murder.

I think it would be extremely useful that acts are forced to display the prices for all tickets in advance of them being on sale. So you can see that standing costs €x, seats cost €y in this section, €z in that section and so on. And I think they should also be forced to show some criteria for dynamic pricing if used (eg dynamic pricing will commence if this event is popular. Prices will increase to €x or will increase by x% or something like that).

If all of this information is openly available in advance, and bands can still choose to go down the route of having various premium prices and dynamic prices, I think it would help a little. And this sounds like something that should be possible to legislate for if needed.

I did think what Stan Collymore said is important to note though.

pubs are by law required to post an updated price list inside the door….

So a gig promotor or ticketing agent should be required to have a proper price list.

Some regulators breathing down their necks would be good too.

I don't mean this in a confrontational way but why should you be told all that information as a ticket buyer? Why should Ticketmaster be forced to tell buyers that information?

You or I have no entitlement to that information from a private company. We're not owed anything by ticketmaster or the artist.

(I'm not saying I wouldn't like to see it myself because of course it would be hugely helpful to me as a buyer. But it's a private company, why am I suddenly entitled to it simply because I deem it "not fair").