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When you get excessively political it can also turn off potential fans ( if you are looking to attract fans), if Bohs were just representing the local working class community then fair enough but they seem to have gone down the whole "refugees welcome" line and I suspect not everyone in that part of Dublin is in full agreement with this.

Some clubs are somewhat political Athletic Bilbao and Barcelona for example but the difference is their politics are almost certainly shared by 100% of the fan base (even though Barcelona are gigantic hypocrites as in reality Catalan independence would be the death of them as a club).It's also a relatively new part of the club that seems to be bit tacked on whereas other clubs that have some sort of politics attached to them it has tended to be a thing from day 1 so they knew when they became fans what the clubs ideology was and obviously agreed with it.

The do when it comes to their basque identity.That's basically all Athletic Club Bilbao are political about is about being a basque club and I'm pretty sure that almost all their fans are proud basques and want to promote a basque identity.

what happens in Gazza is not our problem, not sure why Irish people waste their time waving their flags. Hamas started it. Israel are correct in trying to wipe out Hamas.

And you don't think any football fans in Bilbao have any other political opinion and might be turned off by the club's politics?

They're all basque so I can't imagine they are ashamed of their basque identity.

It would be like thinking that supporters of Ireland are ashamed of being Irish and turned off by the Irish national team promoting Irishness.

I despise the sheep mentality of humans....the mania over Taylor Swift tickets, Garth Brooks, Oasis...or the next overhyped bullshìt.....

I dont blame the service industry for hiking prices at these times to cash in on these suckers....

I couldnt give a fùck that you were online for hours and couldnt get a ticket....

Of course it's that simple when you're far removed from it. Like an American presuming all Irish people are passionate 32 county republicans.

Getting off course here because you're not getting the analogy or seeing the silliness of your original point. Maybe some people are turned off by Bohs' politics. They have an ethos and that's the culture of the club. They are probably fine with that same as athletico Bilbao are probably fine if their politics turns off some Bilbao residents.

@csirl,

more milk the living bejaysus out of the tourism industry, that and low paid workers.

@StevenToast

known as the Herd Mentality

I take your word for it because I don't know about the history of the club

So what if it's a recent addition?

Do people not bother reading Mod warnings anymore?

Yes, what Hamas did was pure evil, but it is mostly innocent civilians who are paying the price.

I don't really care what your name is, just read out the weather/traffic news.

and Bilbao, they’ve one top four finish in the last twenty years so it’s not exactly serving their purpose.

Like Bohs, they are not doing it on the pitch, but colossal efforts off it to get involved in politics and social carry on to levels that shouldn’t concern them.

To be fair to Bilbao, their ethos is ingrained in the club, throughout their history. Not like Bohs, where it's a modern invention.

Can't really compare the 2 clubs.

Few things are more annoying than the bleeding hearts of hostility owners we hear every second week in recent times.

It's all just take take take by them and they're still never happy.

I seen a post recently claiming pubs are only making something like .17c profit per pint. Trying to claim over a euro of the cost goes on wages! You'd have to admire their confidence to post something like that.

Yes I agree. Going back to the October 6th apartheid by isreal and Hammas would almost certainly lead to violent resistance in the future.

Whether it's Hammas in power or not is irrelevant. There will either be a new group to replace them or the Palestinian people will live in an ever shrinking part of the land until they're successfully ethnically cleansed.

The only way they might get peace for both groups is if there's a settlement with equality for both groups.

I don't know. It's never been tried before. I suspect it would take years or decades of negotiation to settle. I wouldn't have a clue how to settle it in a single post.

Do You have a plan for a lasting peace that you could sum up in a post?

I’m not asking you to solve anything.

I’m asking “what would keep the Palestinians happy?”

They have been offered a two state solution previously- but that wasn’t enough.

The problem might be that the Palestinians want it all - “from the river to the sea!”. Thus, every inch you concede to them is an inch closer to their ultimate goal.

Father Ted is technically Brittish

Oh FFS. You don't wany to know what settlement they should reach, you just want to know what settlement they should reach...

I said night don't know any of the specifics. I could make somenup if that's what you want.

The basic elements they will have to have are similar to everything else that gets settled. They'll need a country, independance and equality and the ability to defend itself. It'll also need backing from the West and I presume they'll have to do a civil war between the hardliners and the western backed government who accept the agreement. The usual. But I don't have any specifics.

You didn't say whether you have a neat solution to the whole issue

The Palestinian territory keeps getting smaller and smaller. And when they fight back it's evidence that they're trying to get rid of the Jews. They're getting ethnically cleansed in real time, and being accused of ethnic cleaning.

The lack of thinking is astonishing sometimes.

I don’t have a solution because I believe that there will never be a middle ground compromise. The Palestinians will keep coming looking for it all (with Iran’s backing). The stronger they become after peace talks, the more they can gain in the next round down the road. They seem to be playing a very long game at the expense of their own people.

Not quite, Irish cast, and Irish writers. ot was funded by Channel 4, and from that got a big boost of popularity... which it deserves.