Six hurt in knife attack on bus in Germany

get a taxi.

Ban knives in public, what's the alternative?

Wasn't a Muslim, no one cares

I randomly tv'd sky news today and the banner news moving across the screen was all stabbings

How do you know that? The OP said nothing whatsoever. I certainly didn't read it that way.

What can be done??

Proactive stop and search on everyone. I’d take a million whinging clowns going on about harassment/profiling over the chance of a friend or family member being stabbed to death.

Needle in a haystack stuff and a complete waste of Gardaí resources. The amount of people you'd have to stop and search would be huge.

I never said search “everyone” daily.

You did yeah.

Proactive stop and search on everyone

I added the daily, because it would be pointless otherwise.

i think the point of the thread was to show that no one gives a f**k about these things unless it's done by immigrants. as you can see the thread never took off, it would be dozens of pages long by now if it was an asylum seeker.

I don't think that's true though. It's more that some people think that terrorist attacks are a specific problem that require a particular approach - whether they're right or not.

Nobody thinks that you can get rid of all crime ever. So does that mean there's no point in trying to target specific crimes, eg the terrorist ones?

A similar thing is going on over on the XL bullies "dangerous dogs" thread, where some posters have claimed that because other dogs have also attacked people, there's no point in trying to do anything about fighting breeds like XL bullies. There's even someone saying you can't ban any living creature because next stop = Hitler.

The fallacy of course is that nobody is claiming that banning the fighting breeds will stop terrier or golden retriever attacks. The real question is whether a ban will stop attacks by XL bullies. And, I suppose, whether that's worth doing in itself.

And it would be frankly dishonest to start a thread about a terrier attack to "prove" that nobody cares about dog attacks unless they're by XL bullies. Though TBF we're not far off that over there either.

Yes. I don't know about Germany but it's clear that in Ireland and the UK, "care in the community" has mainly become a way of not spending money on the mentally ill - leave them to their own devices, and presume that their families will have to manage because what's the alternative?

The guy who killed three people in Nottingham, including the daughter of an Irish woman as I recall, had basically been dropped from mental health services because he refused to cooperate. That's the very worst reason for letting someone fall out of the safety net, but it seems it's not that uncommon.

Agreed. It seems to me that the general rule that mentally ill people should be out in the community except in the most exceptional circumstances goes too far in the other direction from the past where the norm was to lock them up. Both extremes are bad, but involuntary hospitalisation should be seen as different from imprisonment as a punishment.

Very ill people can be a threat to themselves as well as to others: I read an article a couple of years back by a woman whose mentally ill sister was being used for sex by multiple men in the area, and she could get nobody to intervene to help her, because the approach was that the woman was an adult, and it was her own choice. She ended up with syphilis, as well as drug addiction.

This is not the same article, but it describes the difficulty families have in getting help for the mentally ill in New York:

It's behind a paywall, so here's some of it:

To keep my sister from becoming one of the thousands of mentally ill homeless people in New York, I and other members of our family spent three years, 2009 to 2012, navigating the city’s real estate laws, federal disability requirements and the state’s health care system and mental health laws. It was a daunting, time-consuming and almost impossible task for laypeople…

Because of her illness, my sister lacks all insight into her condition. She does not understand that the loss of her career, her co-op, her life in New York as she once knew it is due to her illness. She does not accept that I am her guardian, that she can no longer live unsupervised and that the stray animals and injured birds she adopts have caused thousands of dollars in damage to the apartments I was able to sublet for her. She does not understand that she has become a danger to herself and others and needs medical treatment to safely live within the community.

Xray cameras monitored 24/7 by AI to see who's carrying knives. Either that or minority report.

Every lad from 15 to 35 so, is it?

Or can you narrow it down more, or broaden it out a bit?

Iirc its because you refused to open up your own thread on the incident and just wanted to force an entire thread to bend to your will onto a completely different topic.

It was a comprehension issue.

So now you have provided two examples of "furriners". You have reinforced nachouser's point - if it's not a furriner doing it you couldn't care less.

Yes it was a thread about a police officer being stabbed.

You wanted to commandeer it into an entirely different incident.

When a native of a country does something awful, it's awful. Awful things happen. It's very sad.

When someone is a guest in the country or has arrived there illegally and does something awful, of course people will feel strongly about it and rant about it more.

But the reason your thread didn't get any attention or traction is because it was plainly obvious that you opened it in bad faith, had no interest in a discussion and you have admitted as much.

Does that include the one I posted of a "furriner" who's a white middle class New Yorker (in New York!) who was self-harming rather than attacking others - because the mental health issue was MY point, whereas attacking other posters is yours. She was female of course, hence not attacking others.

But yeah, just ignore that example - doesn't fit too well with your (personal attack) sorry, "argument".

FYI if you look at the Southport thread, you'll see that when others were having a dingdong about the race/ethnicity/religion of the attacker, I was the only one pointing out that what these attackers really have in common is that they are all men. Didn't see you getting involved there either.

So hey, you just keep on doing you in your determination to virtue signal to the white middle class men who are the majority of posters on here. "Pick me, men! I'll say what you want to hear!"

I'm sure a certain type of person/section of society would "feel strongly" about it..

When you are more upset by the perpetrator rather than the act itself, maybe you should try some personal reflection

Feel free to re read your post from earlier, if you need to jog your memory

Ah yes, where I said that the attack was awful but awful things will always happen because of human nature? The post also stated that it is understandable that people are more passionate and angry when these awful things happen by people who are guests in their country or are there illegally?

What part of that post would require personal reflection?

OR perhaps you mixed me up with the OP who started a thread purely to bait people using an awful incident.