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Volvo EX90

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,808 ✭✭✭mailforkev


    You can’t use the US as a benchmark, it’s a totally different landscape. Need a European market reference.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,643 ✭✭✭✭AMKC
    Ms


    Live long and Prosper

    Peace and long life.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,897 ✭✭✭joe1303l




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,513 ✭✭✭Oafley Jones


    The production EV9 want even revealed when that comment was made.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,643 ✭✭✭✭AMKC
    Ms


    Live long and Prosper

    Peace and long life.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,293 ✭✭✭MarkN


    Had a look today. Think I was expecting more from the interior, for the price.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,232 ✭✭✭pad199207


    A stunning looking SUV



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,897 ✭✭✭joe1303l


    Leather interior would left it a lot, that wool fabric looks really nasty. Hard to imagine they are expecting people to pay €120K+ for one ?

    Got an email from Volvo today to state they have one available to see in Dublin as per below;

    “Be among the first in the country to meet the fully-electric Volvo EX90, our premium 7-seater SUV that defines a new era for safety.

    When: 12th - 24th March

    Where: Dundrum Town Centre

    Experience this exciting addition to our fully electric lineup. Our friendly Volvo Specialists will be on hand to answer your questions and guide you through the remarkable features of the Volvo EX90.”

    Post edited by joe1303l on


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,610 ✭✭✭carsfan2


    Find it hard to believe that is sold out. I’ll bet when it comes to actually taking delivery there will be some cancellations.

    The interior isn’t 120k worth judging from your video and the interior space or fittings in the second and third row hasn’t moved on from the previous car.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,513 ✭✭✭Oafley Jones


    They've no problem shifting these. Also, the 120k is pretty much a fully loaded launch model.

    Third row is extremely disappointing in terms of space. It really does seem on par, if not worse, than the XC90.

    Also, some nasty cost savings minimalism making it over form the EX30. Glove box opening, hazards etc. Disappointing.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,897 ✭✭✭joe1303l


    Single motor version likely to be the volume seller when it arrives.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,251 ✭✭✭digiman


    A 6 seater version would be cool, that’s one of the things I really liked about the EV9.

    Also surprised it didn’t have rear window blinds, these are really great to have with kids in the back.

    Agree that leather seats would make a big difference, but it does seem to be minimalist enough in general.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,503 ✭✭✭✭ELM327


    Watched the review and I actually really like it. In a world where a Kia equivalent is 87k, this is worth the price IMO.

    (PS: Settle a bet, is that background the Keadeen hotel in Newbridge?)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,293 ✭✭✭MarkN


    Ha no, Radisson St. Helen’s



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 787 ✭✭✭useless


    I really, really wanted to like this car but it's just not doing it for me. Maybe I'm too old but I can't countenance fabric seats on a 120k car. The minimalistic look is...nice... but would it have killed them to put a row of physical buttons under that screen for climate and hazards? Volvo seem to be doing the old Audi trick of designing a model, then putting the plans into the photocopier and blowing them up for larger cars and scaling them down for smaller. This EX90 is very, very like the EX30 beside it, and by extension, not 'special' enough to justify a 120k price tag.

    Also, this car was launched in November 2022. Looking on Reddit, Americans who pre-ordered are only getting theirs in late summer this year, almost 2 years after the launch. There has been delay after delay in manufacturing and software, which doesn't bode well for build quality as they will be working flat out to get the cars out the door asap at this point. Interesting that Mark said there was an 8 year warranty- is that only for the battery or for the full car? If its the latter it would go a long way to assuaging any fears, but I'd be surprised if the warranty is not the bare minimum 2-3 years for Ireland.

    I might wait for the facelift, or see if Audi come out with something interesting electric to replace the Q7. Maybe by then BMW will have seen sense too and released a fully electric "iX5" to replace the pig-ugly iX... (all the preceding fully on the basis of my impending lotto win, of course! :-) :-) )



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,293 ✭✭✭MarkN


    That’s for the battery - need to double check the car.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,897 ✭✭✭joe1303l


    Standard Volvo warranty is 3 years or 100K Km’s whichever comes first. Not great.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,513 ✭✭✭Oafley Jones


    You can forget about leather on these, no experience of the standard seats, but those woolen ones are excellent… and expensive. Wouldn’t fancy the colour with my lot.

    The lack of physical HVAC buttons really is off putting. Every so often, my xc60 will have a meltdown and refuse to launch the screen. Happens maybe once every two or three months (probably update related), but it’s incredibly irritating when it happens. I’m pretty sure the heated seats controls have always remained on, (edit: I must have summoned this, as this just occurred half an hour ago. Screen completely gone for five minutes while random reboot happened, so possible you’d have no hazards etc on the ex90)during this, so I’d be curious if this has the same redundancy for the lower controls. Either way, I don’t like it. The current mix is a decent, though not perfect, compromise. Steering wheel at least looks good to me.

    I still can’t get over the lack of space in back though. My main takeaway is that this car will give Kia even more business.

    Post edited by Oafley Jones on


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,897 ✭✭✭joe1303l


    By leather, I mean Nordico which is Volvo speak for fake leather. It’s available in 3 colours as no cost option. The grey wool is €1350 extra. I think you’d be crazy to pay more for grey wool fabric over Nordico that you can wipe clean on a 7 seat family car.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 187 ✭✭derekreilly


    I had a quick look around the EX90 this week at the Irish launch




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 187 ✭✭derekreilly


    Today I'm in LA at the global launch of the Volvo EX90. I can speak about everything but the driving until the embargo in 13hrs. What would you like to know?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,897 ✭✭✭joe1303l


    Expected delivery and pricing for the single motor version ? Not everyone has €120K sitting around for a new EV.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,610 ✭✭✭carsfan2


    How many times has Volvo "launched" this car?

    Seems like we saw it about two years ago at this stage.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 187 ✭✭derekreilly




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 187 ✭✭derekreilly


    A long time coming for sure and still not fully software baked.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,513 ✭✭✭Oafley Jones


    The single button thing for both front and rear windows is enough to put me off. I can understand it on the EX30, where’s it obvious that every cost cut had to be made, but its completely unacceptable in a car of the price category. I’ve been waiting for the ex60 to replace my XC60, but I won’t go for it if they do this. The more I see of the XC90, the higher I think of our EV9.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,513 ✭✭✭Oafley Jones


    A friend has the EX30. It’s really impressive, but the software is unbelievably shoddy in it.

    Post edited by Oafley Jones on


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 187 ✭✭derekreilly


    I think EV9 is a great electric 3 row. I also think some perspective Volvo EX90 buyers went this way. Single window button definitely a negative.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 187 ✭✭derekreilly


    This software was good for the few hours I had it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 187 ✭✭derekreilly




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,648 ✭✭✭pah


    How much? Probably a lot more than the EV9



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,503 ✭✭✭✭ELM327


    Closer to two EV9s than one, I'd say. Volvo have moved to premium pricing for some years now.



  • Registered Users Posts: 406 ✭✭jiminho


    I’d really like to know who the demographic this car is aimed at. Family with young kids? I seem to recall the XC90 started at around 80k in 2021 which was high but on the border of realism. This car starts at 118k! I realise COVID, Brexit and of course it’s electric but a 50% uplift, madness but I guess a sign of the times. I don’t think we’ll be seeing too many of these driving around these shores



  • Registered Users Posts: 364 ✭✭DrPsychia


    According to a Volvo dealer in Dublin, the Irish order allocation is already filled for 2025 delivery. These will no doubt be popular in leafy South Dublin, not so much outside of the pale.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,513 ✭✭✭Oafley Jones


    Lads, your ability to do a price comparison is shocking…

    Single motor EV9. Lists as 77.k, Dual motor at 85.5. Dual motor Ultra spec XC90 117K.

    2015 XC90 T8 Momentum PHEV (which was the entry level spec) without the grants etc was 89k ish. Which is about 108k in today's money. Again, Dual motor ULTRA spec 117k.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,513 ✭✭✭Oafley Jones


    They're extremely popular in Cork as well. Heard the same months back here.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 787 ✭✭✭useless


    I was really excited about this car and even watched Jim make his big speech on YouTube back in 2022(!) when Volvo 'launched' it. I'm still a little bit excited about going to test one. However, I wouldn't touch one of these versions with a 40 foot pole, new or used. Waaaaayyy too long to go from 'launch' to on sale, still reports on reddit of buggy software, Lidar not included, Apple CarPlay not available etc.

    I'll wait for the Mk2 version of this- and would recommend to anyone who wants to get into an early version to lease it rather than buy it.

    The pricing is the pricing, in line with the X5 (starts around 100k, spec one to the same level as EX90 and it gets close to 120) and the GLE. The people buying these aren't impacted by the housing crisis and have plenty of money. Look at the stats on how many people in Ireland now earn over 100k, 200k etc.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,251 ✭✭✭digiman


    Nobody on €100k is buying one of these and I doubt even families with a combined income on €200k are buying one either to be honest. The demographic that would need one are young families with two-three kids, mortgage and childcare will eat into €200k pretty quick without forking out €1500-2000/month on PCP. You need a decent bit of cash in the bank as well as a high salary to properly afford a €120k unless you want a life of very high debt.


    Looks good though, but not sure it’s worth it over the KIA EV9, paying for the badge mainly



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,610 ✭✭✭carsfan2


    there’s a refresh xc90 phev coming out that adopts some of the styling cues from the ex90 inside and out. This will probably be a more affordable proposition and more popular I reckon.

    Consider how long the development of the ex90 has been going on, it’s a disappointment that it’s still not really the finished product.

    A 120k car with no apple carplay?



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,503 ✭✭✭✭ELM327


    So, my statement of closer to two EV9 than one.

    1 EV9 = 77k, 2EV9 = 154k
    1 EX90 = 117k.

    EX90-EV9 = 40k
    EX90-2EV9=-37k

    therefore I was correct, by 3 K.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,513 ✭✭✭Oafley Jones


    I think you're further proving my point ELM about your inability to do a price comparisons.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,292 ✭✭✭Buddy Bubs


    He has a fair point.

    40k or anywhere close to it is one hell of a price difference. Car might be marginally better but not price of a vw ID4 better



  • Registered Users Posts: 364 ✭✭DrPsychia


    The lucky few that can afford and want to buy an EX90 do not care about how much of a premium they'll pay over a EV9.

    You can make the same value argument for any segment. At the end of the day it's all about perceived quality, desirability, and how much disposable income you have.



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