French man accused of drugging his wife and inviting men to rape her

Ok you go first. What should you be publicly shamed for?

Obviously a horrific story. Shocking that nobody blew the whistle.

That's the thing though. Deviance isn't only restricted to weird looking people who give you the 'no feeling' on first meeting them. They are spread through society. The ones who get caught tend to be the reckless ones or have learning disabilities.

My wife worked with violent offenders and it's pretty clear that the ones in prison are heavily biased towards the most stupid ones. The more clever ones tend to blend in better and are less likely to be caught.

Not sure what it says about society as a whole. There's more deviance out there than you'd expect.

I think you are mixing up the difficulty in identifying a deviant, with continuing to identify them ordinary after you know they are a deviant

I mean, do you think those men should have been charged at all if they were just ordinary men doing their ordinary thing that ordinary men do?

I certainly wouldn't describe either their seeking out and frequenting of those groups or doing what they did as something an ordinary person would do.

I wasn't commenting on that at all. I should think the answer is obvious.

I was commenting on identifying deviants. They don't all present as weirdos or get caught. The clever ones can blend in and present as normal.

Not sure why I'm explaining this again. My post was clear enough.

And how are women supposed to identify what other women are perverts or potential murderers?

Perhaps you should also treat all the women you meet with suspicion, just in case.

Ultimately, it's up to you how you want to live your life. Treat whoever you want with whatever suspicion you want.

The question was whether you thought there were more women who could benefit from additional driving lessons or training, or more men seeking out pervert chatrooms looking to rape unconscious women? The context was that you appeared to diminish the point about women drivers as being not important and a waste of money due to low numbers of them exhibiting bad driving or causing crashes etc.

Offended on behalf of rapists !?!

WTF are you on about??? Im not offended on bhalf of rapists, im disgusted by them!

You are projecting the sick males that rape women, onto men on here dont !!!

And then you get offended when men on here fight back at your massive overstep…

There are BAD MEN , and there are BAD WOMEN..

theres also lots of GOOD MEN and GOOD WOMEN also…..

You try tar men on here because of some weirdos in France…… WOW…

Exactly and that's why this issue will continue. Until there's an admittance that this is not some outlier and sexual assault is a regular occurrence that women have to endure, then nothing will change. It's not all men, that's the major point. We all need the men against these rapists to assist in stopping them. Something has to be done.

Discrimination is good its how people live their lives, dont live here, dont socialize there, cross the road if you see X

a lot of effort for a man bashing thread, but I suppose you have nothing better to do with your time, drive on

I’ve had my ass, chest, and cock grabbed by women a few times in the past two years. It happens both ways, but when it happens to men it is still considered just a bit of fun. Its not.

SOME women are also scum.

where does it say locally? From my reading (which was brief as I found it harrowing reading); the victim only recognised a single man from her own town?

I'm blaming the men who rape and sexually assault. And repeatedly have said that. Again, stop lying.

So you're not in favour of using education to help fight against this issue. What are you in favour of doing? Nothing?

Just a guess. Some that I know of have previously identified themselves as male but clearly we have no way of knowing that here.

Hold on there Enoch. You shouldn't be assuming their genders. In some cases, they may even be fluid.

“unmoderated French website implicated in more than 23,000 police cases in France alone from 2021 to 2024”

23000 cases over 3 years. Assume many more implications in the decade before. Why does it take so long to shut this type facilitating website down. Assume once these nuts make contact and exchange details it’s too late and WhatsApp or similar become the mode of contact.

I’ll let the mods decide what’s off topic thanks.

YOUR opening post stinks of man hate, you lost all credibility on page 1.

Any solutions to the issue or just hate?

To answer the question around what are women to do to identify potential sexual assaulters and rapists, if a heck of a lot of seemingly normal men are also sexual assaulters and rapsits, there's not much you can do other than be suspicious of all men you encounter. Is that a good answer? No it's not, but what other answer is there to that specific question.

Sexual assaulters and rapists don't go around with a neon sign. Sexual assaulters and rapists don't look like creepy perverts hiding in dark shadows wearing raincoats and carrying plastic bags. They look like ordinary men, going about ordinary man business like having jobs, families.

Just like any perpetrator of any crime, they do not fit some neat little niche of looks or behaviours that immediately allow you to identify who is going to commit what crime.

So what are women to do? I don't know, same as I don't know what anyone is to do about any potential crime being committed against them.

What would you advise women to do, as a woman?

the OP herself says that a “heck of a lot of men” are rapists and it’s only the fear of violence from their husbands that stop us from carrying it out

She went on to say that men in general cannot be trusted by women.

It absolutely is a man bashing thread. Even now, you’re accusing anyone who says this is not a representative sample of man is “getting offended on behalf of rapists”. Can you not see how inflammatory and divisive that is, and why some of us might take issue with it?

But almost zero women are perverts or murderers, so the whole basis of your world view is inaccurate

What are you defining as “almost zero?” In the U.S. thousands of women are murderers on a yearly basis, nevermind the world. Are their victims zeroed out too? Studies have also found about 1 in 3 to 1 in 4 male victims of rape were raped by women (and about 4% of women are raped by other women) are they zeroes as well? By this standard the woman victim at the head of this topic is a zero also being given outsized attention vs. the sheer number of victims of murder and rape that have happened even since the start of the thread being created.