Transgender man wins women's 100 yd and 400 yd freestyle races.

No no, there is no shuffling goalposts, gif or no gif.

You are honestly trying to say the medals they got when they identified as a man have no bearing on them competing as a female? Your ideology is really blinding you here.

You can stop the personal attacks. Ad hominem fallacy. You are another anonymous internet pseudonym, and haven’t exactly shown your grades in biology here (nor would they be verifiable) nor would they hold any relevance to the argument that her prior medals pretransition make her any less qualified to compete under the rules governing her testosterone levels. Such claims as “heart size” aren’t engraved on her past medals surely. Is “heart size” one of the competition criterion? Doubtful.

There are no attacks, save us all the faux outrage, which you are using now to try and avoid any genuine discourse about it. The irony now that you engage with insults just shows that you can't back up anything with facts, it is all feelings. You really think heart size when it comes to physical competition has no embedded advantage? You seem to be struggling with basic sports science and biology. But as we have seen, and ideology doesn't require facts, just feelings.

Everyone in here can see your tactic on this, you avoid avoid avoid.

Do you acknowledge that the male body has physical, embedded advantages over females after puberty, can you at least admit that?

Someone with no previous medals is likely to beat women, someone with medals has a demonstrated history that confirms his ability to beat women, and in the case of Petrillo, Vote4Squirrels has linked a document showing the gap between his best and the best females.

I might be still on ignore....

Women's football teams - as with other sports teams - were created because physically and physiologically female on average are not as fast, as strong, as tall as males nor do we have as dense muscles or as strong bones. 

I've said it before but it bears saying again - bodies play sports; identities and feelings don't.

But that’s not the reason women’s football teams or any other sports teams were created? They were created with the opposite intent - to dismantle those beliefs about women which prevented their participation in sports, as sports were thought to be solely an activity in which only men could participate, much the same as many activities at the time were regarded as solely an activity in which only men could participate - from academic pursuits to occupational professions. Women were simply regarded as being inferior in every way to men - physically, intellectually, emotionally, and so on. Their sole functional objective in society was based around the idea of their reproductive capacity being of any value.

That began to change around 100 years ago when women began to form associations to organise and promote women in sports, and the benefits of playing sports for women, which never solely rested on the belief that ‘bodies play sports; identities and feelings don’t’. Were that ever the case, then sports would be limited to people whose cognitive function or intellectual capacity is limited or impaired in some way, or they have one of many of what are now regarded as learning disabilities. That has never been the case - people whose cognitive function, intellectual capacity or those who have what are now regarded as learning disabilities, were also historically subjected to discrimination in sports and attempts were made to inhibit their participation in organised sports.

Not only has your belief never been shown to have any rational basis in fact, it’s been debunked by overwhelming evidence to the contrary:

https://goalfive.com/blogs/news/history-of-gender-inequality-in-sports?srsltid=AfmBOorsmDUvi6LQlaivtUA3Jn2qBd8sTa7wIOrWu1gwSVSTvfgOJeAA

Because I provided the example of Verity Smith recently in the discussion, I’ll stick with that one and share their experiences of competing in women’s rugby, later in wheelchair rugby after they had their back broken by another player:

DS: Wow, that’s intense and a lot of extra s**t that most athletes will never deal with. 

VS: I’ve been doxed, I’ve been put on the dark web with my personal information. But you know what, if everything that I am going through now saves one person or one child, then it’s absolutely worth it. The best thing you can do in sport is to play as your authentic self. Not having to hide who you are and having your name and pronouns respected without having been dragged off the pitch because another team told the referee that I shouldn’t be playing and I’m dangerous. That happened once at three o’clock on a Sunday afternoon and you can’t get ahold of anyone from the RFU at that time, so I got removed off the pitch in front of my friends. What happened afterwards was another one of my teammates who is a lot bigger than me a lot and a lot taller than me. She was allowed to play, and she just railroaded everybody on the opposing team. I just sat there smiling. Yes, it’s just crazy. So, I decided to use my platform to make sure that other young people didn’t have go through the life that I did.

DS: When you came out, did you worry about getting kicked off the team?

VS: I got told that if I came out as trans I wouldn’t be able to play. It is hard because being a rugby player is the one thing that I had. I lost my parents when I was very young, and rugby was my go-to. So, it was going to be hard to lose that too. I had to decide between my gender identity and my athletic identity. I’m 42 now and I’ve only just started being able to be myself. I’m a trans gay man. I’ve got my partner; I also have a disability. The sport only supports my disability, but it doesn’t support my gender identity, and it doesn’t support my agenda. Thus, I am making sure that we have these conversations around what’s actually happening. It’s been a massive roller coaster ride; I’ve had teams stand in front of toilets and not let me into my own changing facilities. All because they have this preconceived perception about the way I look, I had a beard before, but I used to shave it all the time just to make things easier for myself when I played women’s rugby. Now we talk about hormones, they thought I was gonna be 6’4” with a six pack. Good luck in that I’m 5’6” and just over 12 stone,  I’ve got a dad bod and have gone bald. So, it’s definitely nothing to do with anything like that.

https://competenetwork.com/wheelchair-rugby-player-and-trans-man-verity-smith-is-leading-the-way-toward-building-gender-diverse-and-inclusive-sports-for-all/

And Natasha King definitely wasn’t just playing sports with her body when she decided to deliberately cause injury to Dani Czernuszka-Watts in retaliation for having successfully tackled King earlier in the game, breaking Dani Czernuszka-Watts back in the process. It hasn’t stopped her playing sports though, and now she plays a different sport, competing for Team GBs para-ice hockey team. For her, sports aren’t just about playing with one’s body either, they’re just as much about identity and feelings:

"It's rugby on ice," she jokes. 

She says the sport has allowed her to meet "some of the most awesome humans".

"When we come away from our team we're all so isolated, and then you come within a team and you're all together and it doesn't feel like you're anything other than just part of a team."

The athlete says she worries about injuring herself "every time I play", and she sometimes suffers from flashbacks.

"I'm only human... but equally I'm a human that's wired to be physical and play sport, and you just can't change that," she says.

"Once I was on the ice, it was just freedom."

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cpde859d4nro.amp

Ms. Czernuska-Watts bears no ill will towards the sport of rugby, but rather she feels that ultimately she was let down by the improper and poor behaviour of the opposing player, coaching staff and the referee, whose responsibility it is to ensure that all players are treated fairly, and with respect, while at the same time being mindful that safety is also an integral aspect of any sport, regardless of the sex of the players involved:

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11794817/amp/Mother-paralysed-rugby-pitch-says-allows-daughter-13-play-game.html

That’s something which has been historically and all too often overlooked by over-zealous fans, journalists, team owners, managers, coaches, referees, and indeed players, which has lead to these sorts of cases coming before the Courts in recent years. In one of the more notable cases, Senior Master Cook encouraged both sides to be inventive and creative in the legal mechanism they deploy:

Previewing a potential trial, Senior Master Cook noted that causation “is going to be fiendishly difficult” to prove and urged both sides to be inventive and creative in the legal mechanism they deploy with Rylands Garth also taking a separate action against rugby league’s authorities.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/rugby-union/2024/05/20/rugby-concussion-lawsuit-trial-delayed-2025/

I imagine he’s not likely to be disappointed, though how he is likely to rule will be another matter entirely, an outcome that even if I were a gambling man, I wouldn’t care to take, or place a bet on.

It's the same tactic they've employed over and over throughout the course of this thread. Latch on to one tiny thing (in this case medals) and attempt to repeatedly bash anyone that disagrees over the head with said point. Its hilariously transparent.

Unfortunately, I am like a dog with a bone, so I won't let up.

If only reality was defined by words - I'd be a Euromillions winner!

Yeah right.

Anyway. CAreful what you write about this. The Algerian lady is suing

In July, Proekt — a Russian investigative outlet deemed undesirable by the Kremlin — published an investigation that revealed the depths of Kremlev’s relationship with the Russian state.

According to the report, the IBA president changed his surname from Lutfulloyev, a Turkic name reflecting his Tajik heritage, to the more Russian-sounding Kremlev in 2010, in an effort to distance himself from a criminal record that includes convictions for extortion and battery. In that same year, he also joined the notorious Night Wolves biker gang, an ultranationalist group with close ties to Putin.

It was through the Night Wolves that Kremlev met Alexei Rubezhnoi, the head of Putin’s security service and an influential figure in the Kremlin. Rubezhnoi lobbied for Kremlev to become the secretary general of the Russian Boxing Federation. He also helped Kremlev secure a private audience with Putin.

Kremlev did not waste his chance. He established a relationship with the Russian president, who bestowed him with the Order of Merit to the Fatherland, awarded for outstanding contributions to the state. Having established himself in Putin’s circle, Kremlev was reportedly gifted with “unlimited opportunities to make money.”

During Kremlev’s tenure with the Russian Boxing Federation, the group saw a significant increase in financial support from main sponsors such as the bookmaker company Liga Stavok and the National Lottery. According to Proekt, these entities are actually owned by Kremlev. Additionally, Rubezhnoi also engineered the nationalization of Rolf, Russia’s biggest car dealership, and then successfully lobbied the Kremlin to place the company under Kremlev’s control.

Kremlev, with the backing of his Kremlin allies, also gained control over the Russian betting market. In 2021, a decree signed by Putin appointed TsUPIS — a company gifted to Kremlev after its previous owner, the billionaire lawmaker Magomed Gadzhiyev, fled Russia for denouncing the war on Ukraine — as the sole operator of all bookmaker betting in the country. Kremlev also became the beneficiary of three of Russia’s largest betting companies: Fonbet, Pari and Liga Stavok. In return for his business success, Kremlev leveraged his position within the sporting world to further Russia’s political agenda.

You're correct but https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mJ8hGgZi7Ek

It used to be that women being pissed off about men in their sports was because of "American right wing Christians". Now the Russian interference conspiracy is back in style. Couldn't just be that it's wrong and people are getting pissed off about women being denied fairness and opportunities