Time for a zero refugee policy? - *Read OP for mod warnings - updated 11/5/24*

Immigration falls because of recessions. It doesn't cause them.

Look at how many Irish are emigrating from this booming economy. How does that fit your narrative?

Population growth is one thing, what the country is experiencing right now is literally one of the largest if not the single largest growth in population of any country in history

https://www.irishtimes.com/ireland/social-affairs/2024/06/10/european-commission-says-irish-population-rose-by-record-35-per-cent-last-year/

It is not in any way normal or sustainable

You are talking about lack of supply, yes that’s an enormous problem - how exactly is facilitating this artificial enormous increase in demand going to help matters?
The people being moved on in Borrisokane because still they can’t support themselves - surely this pattern will be replicated many times over?
You note that there is a paucity of property in the area for them, that same lack applies for all Irish people too.

So we are either paying for them to remain in accommodation in perpetuity or we are bringing people in that will eventually compete with the native population for very scarce essential resources (housing), which will drive prices up for everyone. Remind me again how this is apparently actually a benefit to our country?

And please don’t return with some waffle about increasing supply - everyone knows we need to increase supply. Problem is the amount of people we are allowing in means even with a big increase in supply we will never catch up, all the while an entire generation remains screwed and living with their parents into their 40s. They will not be having children during that time.

Can you name any country in Europe though that is taking active steps to stop its population from growing? Many European countries these days are very concerned with the real risk of depopulation (Germany, Italy, Portugal and Poland for example).

By all means, Ireland should be constantly monitoring its immigration and asylum rules to prevent the risk of services, infrastructure and housing being overwhelmed by too rapid population growth. But we have to be cautious too : a mere ten years ago (2014), the population of Ireland was actually declining and talk of the government back then taking active steps to stop the population from growing would have sounded bonkers.

I didn’t say a thing about “stopping” population growth - it’s not a light switch that’s either on or off, we can have reasonable population growth, it does not necessarily have to be at the current insanely high levels.
We could reduce it to a quarter of current levels and still be doing well

Our population has increased every year for the past 30+ years.

No thanks, we've too many people living in tents as is.

So continue to house and feed rejected asylum seekers? Whats the point of hearing claims for asylum then if we'll be supporting them anyway. And you've already said you don't believe in deportations.

People aren’t really interested in those biased studies or research. Would be far more illuminating to see figures from the department of social protection on how many have remained on the live register and for how long

Yeah good luck with that.

I'm sure the airlines will be happy to facilitate this approach and the countries where the flights originate, or where we believe the reject asylum seekers are actually from, will have no issues either.

The Esri are biased now?

I guess we'll have to add them to the list so.

Maybe someday one of guys will actually explain how all this is supposed to work between O'Gorman's tweets, the MSM, the hotel owners, the NGOs, the ESRI, the people-traffickers, the lefties, the UN etc, etc.

At the moment it's looking more than a little conspiratorial.

I don't know why you seem to think it appropriate to bring my living situation into the discussion? I think it should be pretty clear it's not going to make any difference to the situation.

As for Australia, yes you would be sent back. You would also be subject to a lengthy pre clearance process before you boarded the flight. Which makes it very unlikely anybody will attempt to claim asylum on landing.

Some kind of pre-clearance system is being introduced as part of the migration pact, but considering how many of our arrivals come via sea or over the border from NI, I wouldn't expect it to make much of a difference in Europe or Ireland.

Are you also challenging the ESRI findings on IPAs joining the workforce?