LSL to charge for the App

OH got the text this morning. He didn't read it.

Martbids would want to get their finger out as IMO it's the worst of the three providers - the move will suit the boys with their hands in around the ring.

you know I have never used that one. No mart I look at used it u til now. I have used MartEye with Ballyjamesduff and found it good and LSL and also found it good. The mistake LSL made was not get MartBids and MartEye together and introduce a pricing system together but it’s too late for that now anyway.

if lsl was clever they wouldn’t have looked for any fee like they have what I would have done was look for 10c or something small to be paid to the online provider of every lot bought and sold and that’s how they would make real money.

I emailed lsl and told them I bought and sold at kilmallock mart and they let me by we'll call it and I can see every mart on lsl

I would say it's only a matter of time. My count has it at 12 marts gone from LSL.

what’s LSL . An online mart ?

But my original point was LSL existed before Marteye. Carnaross was the first mart to go online. LSL had a few marts on there books before Marteye got tullow up and going. Same as martbids, they were a few weeks after marteye

How many marts do LSL have left now?

Now at 13 marts in the republic. Don't know about the north

Was talking to a factory man today in the yard and that ballinasloe is moving to Martbids.

Dungannon aswell moved to marteye

Seen brockagh in Donegal moved to Marteye today. Looks like there's lots of competition between Martbids and Marteye with them getting new customers.

Why would they not buy?

I think from looking at the MartBids site that Granard mart has moved from LSL.

It's an awful downfall for LSL and as I posted previously they were IMO by far the best of the 3 online providers.

I presume and hope that both MartBids and MartEye improve the image/camera quality around the ring and also ensure that the auctioneer can be heard clearly.

Hopefully they will also provide a playback video on their sales catalogue.

If you can pay to watch previous sales,then clearly they are harvesting data IMHO.

ballinakill mart was supposedly bought buy factory and cattle export family who also supposedly have now sold there share in lsl when ballinakill was bought it change to lsl . 1 exporter wouldn’t buy in lsl marts supposedly because they could get name and address of his customers on the continent west of Ireland shipping family

Turned on Ennis yesterday MartBids don’t like it press the paddock lock to bid I pressed it and I could hit the green button to bid couldn’t find how to turn off my account in lsl you could give the phone to kids you have to select account at top and then bid no worries if they took the phone off you with MartBids they could very easily buy I take back all I said about lsl MartBids is very poor app

Turn your analogy the other way around. If you were an exporter that owned a sales platform and competing exporters don't attend or buy then you have a better shot at buying animals that suit your overall business - that also works for FR/FRx/AAx etc bull calves destined for export and don't forget forward stores/feeding cattle/cull cows that may be slaughtered in your factory - just saying.

But you will have most of that information from ringside info anyway.

LSL would have individual herd numbers and owners data. However it's only the sales knocked down online to these numbers that they would have. Many tanglers around d a ring and o line will be buying for feedlots, themselves, ordinary farmers and exporters.

At the end of the mart some may be switched into different herd numbers. This data should not be available to LSL.

No Exporters are buying everything directly themselves. Buyers will have averages to hit. So a lot of that knowledge is out there as to who buys what and for how much.

But the huge issue is the conquences. If you could harvest the data yourself maybe but you would want to be an IT wizard. But your logging on, searches, archiving and downloading is very hard to hide. You fall out with your CEO or data analyst and they spill the beans and it all over

A Senior member of management in a large meat processing group sold weanlings in a local mart, his bull threw calves with a slight belly. Mr. Manager wanted to know who bought his weanlings, so a open minded dept officer opened up the movements and it showed two left in the mart but booked in for the store sale.

Mr. Manager kept his ear to the ground and arrived in to watch one make €170 more and the other €80, now we all know this information should not have been shared and if you went to the department with a good reason for it you'd be told where to go.

But in the real world your info and how it is used has significant implications for anyone's business.

If lsl had the movement details of a competitor's stock, can anyone say it won't be used to disadvantage the competitor. Have yet to meet a successful business man or woman who don't engage in sharp practices and would shaft their best friend for a deal.

Single Shareholder and he is a director.

Why do marts not call out the name of the buyer when an animal is sold.....some up north do but most around dont

Watched a little bit myself I thought the sound was coming through the camera or something it was that bad. Couldn't hear the auctioneer at all. The video was a little hit and miss. Switched over to roscommon on marteye and all looked good

Ask Denis O Brien and Leslie Buckley that in a couple of years time and they have plenty of money to defend it. That beside DIB having to sell the Indo at loss

LB fell out with the CEO of the indo, he made a protected disclosure that is how it all fell apart.

There is no way I would trust someone I employed not to squel on me down the line. At some stage in business you fall.out with people especially employee.

I am told factory/mart/exporter family have no ties to lsl yet they will not buy in Clare marts because they left lsl for MartBids and the shipper they wanted to come back never turn up

You couldn’t make it up

Lsl is the best app but lsl = control