iPhone 16 (Plus, Pro Max and Pro)

I was looking at upgrading from my 14 Pro to a 16, but if Apple Intelligence doesn't make it to the EU due to possible DMA non-compliance, then I don't really see the point…

Yeah, recently bought the 15 Pro so definitely won't be upgrading this year. I sent my 12 Pro to Apple for a new battery and my other half is using it now and it's perfect.

It will be interesting to see how much of the new IOS features will filter over to us, particularly the AI and other smarts which will be publicised again, to make people switch out their aging handsets.

Sorry but what are people expecting at this stage?

Smartphones are very mature now and you're not going to get revolutionary changes every year. This applies not just to Apple.

However, when you look at the gradual changes you see how different an iphone 11 is to a 15 but still people are not happy.

People keep finding looks and colours of phones very important and then go and slap a plastic case on it.

Key nowadays is software, and that's massive change in last 5 years and the next 5 years will be even bigger as AI possibilities take hold.

Anyone watching? Missed the start of the event and only joined for AI.

No change in price for the Pro Max models.

Are the camera lenses smaller on the pros this year ? The three black circles don’t look as big as the 15 Pros

Very meh this year I thought. The only real standout get be were the AirPods hearing capabilities, the addition of sleep apnea monitoring and the cameras button on the phones. Even having downloaded and installed the RC now it’s a bit of a meh update. They built this release around AI and it’s its main USP. If we’re not getting it in the EU for now at least it kind of nullifies this whole cycle.

I'm using a 13 base model which has a battery getting weaker and iffy charging port. I was looking towards the 16 base model but I'm not bowled over. Would a 15 pro be a better shout than 16 base?

Currently on a 12 Pro - that's still running fine - on a plan paid for by work. That will be ending in the next couple of months, so it'll give me the opportunity to switch plans and hopefully upgrade to a 16 at the same time. Might not bother with the Pro this time. There's enough cumulative upgrades between the 12 and the 16 that will make it significant, plus futureproofing for the AI features when they do come to us.

I'm very happy to see that the regular Watch is getting a depth gauge. I'm a regular snorkeler, but since I don't scuba dive, a dive computer or Apple Watch Ultra is overkill for me. Having the 6m limited gauge in the Series 10 is perfect for me. I'm on a Series 4 at the moment that's getting a bit long in the tooth, so I'm really looking forward to that upgrade. The new Watch OS 11 tide app and watersports logging improvements look great too. I'm currently using Tide Pro and Paddle Logger.

Yeah, the colors aren't great, but I do use an Otterbox case, so it's not too much of an issue for me.

I'll probably just get a black one. In all fairness, the colours of the 16 Pro aren't great either. Black, white or two sandy ones. I've the Pacific Blue 12 Pro, and I love that colour.

I agree with this. I've moved from Android to Apple, even though I prefer the physical shape, battery life, price, software features of my older Android. But I just couldn't live with the knowledge that Google was watching me and distributing my details far and wide.

It’s just a suggestion because you made the point about how nice the titanium looks, and sure you could compromise and get a more durable phone for a lot less, but it’d be some heft, and they sure as hell ain’t pretty 😂

On your point about the cameras - I personally have rarely ever used them, either front or back, but I know plenty of people who buy the latest generation iPhones, only because of the better camera specs, because a DSLR camera on it’s own could be nearly the same total cost of ownership as an iPhone! So the iPhone is something of a compromise, like buying Apple care because you care about the phone being scratched, or a €10 case because you don’t care about the additional benefits of Apple care.

Ultimately you as the consumer makes the choices and decisions as to what you want from an iPhone, and how much money you’re willing to part with to own it, like anything else really.

Will I personally be paying for a new iPhone 16? Not on yer life, one of the absolute best things about iPhones is their longevity - I’m still sporting an iPhone 11, that’s due to get iOS 18 when it comes out. The iPhone has paid for itself many, many times over in the years that I’ve had it, and their trade-in value is legendary. I was surprised that I’d get anything at all for it if I traded up to the iPhone 16, but the option is there if I ever want to (in reality I’ll probably just go with the 13 next year tbh).

I wonder will iPhone 16 improve their camera quality and finally have it on par with a Samsung from 2015

You’ll have to do better than that

Anyone successfully upgrade on Vodafone’s shite website? Every 2 years the same issue - something went wrong.

Same, if I go through as a new customer I have no issues but as an upgrade it won't add to the basket

Have had this issue this afternoon. Got through to order and payment taken from my credit card. Then crashed on their end. Now can’t add anything to basket and says I am not due an upgrade. Shitshow.