Harris Vs Trump 2024 US Presidential election - read the warning in the OP posted 18/09/24

There's a padded room just itching for her.

You'd need to define a civil war. What's the line between that and civil unrest? Civil unrest has already happened in the states with riots at certain BLM protests and MAGA supporters breaking into the US Capitol.

Although civil war has no set-in-stone definition, I think it's reasonable to say it would involve an established state fighting against an insurgent polity where each has some kind of regular fighting force and civil services and so on. If we take that definition, I don't think it'll happen.

Heightened civil unrest? Certainly possible, but why should anyone be cowed by a crowd of frizzy bearded manosphere adherents with too many guns and not enough hugs as children? Fk them if they can't handle the outcome of a free and fair election.

I suppose the question is exactly how much organising all these wannabe militia groups have been doing in what will have been four years since Jan 6 come next Jan. I can't think that the full picture on this will be freely available since such groups will be trying to conceal their efforts to become bigger and more powerful, and the FBI aren't going to be publicising their own efforts to counteract that.

This is exactly what I think will happen if he loses. They will distance themselves and some will try and take his place. The GOP of old are long gone now, it's been taken over by loons.

I also fear, that Jan 6th was pretty much a dress rehearsal for a much larger level of disturbance, he is already planting the seeds as we speak.

already getting that vibe with his latest nonsense post debate and some of his allies: Sen. Mullin on TV today refusing to say he’d certify the election etc.

I think if the polls start to bump Harris more post debate he’s going to become more unhinged and just go full stollen election TM tactics ahead of the vote and rile people up for breakouts at voting locations, start the chaos even earlier than last time, not even trying to pretend like he has a shot at that point just going for broke.

Well I'm no fan of Kamala as you know and I'm going to be a centrist in all this but I do think the maga croud should be divided into sexes and the men used as fuel and the women sterilised…because I'm a centrist 😉

Whilst undoubtedly things will get very ugly in this election, when Trump sees himself losing in the polls, he'll get very unhinged and lash out in all directions. Overheal, you're quite right, this will happen prior to the election. You'll also have small electoral areas that will have officials who will refuse to certify their local area (because of doubts)?? This will mean the State won't be able to certify. There will be a lot of law and courts between now and next January. At least they have already mobilised security to protect the Jan 6th ratification process.

Veteran election stategist/analysis James Carville said the other week of Harris, in order to win she would need to be leading Trump nationally by 3 points.

https://www.mediaite.com/tv/james-carville-warns-democrats-kamala-harris-has-to-win-by-three-points-to-beat-trump/

She now leads him 5.

But sure, 'aint worth a **** TM.' It's just a poll in the 93rd percentile of all polls ranked by 538 (it's 19th).

Saying and doing…again, I’ll ask you, name a Trump policy.

Not one person on here going to try and defend the fact that he's a racist?

No?

We past that point?

Good.

About f**king time!

I thought the word alien would mean he's more xenophobic than racist.

Is that an actual real thing??

JFC!!

Not just a racist, an actual rapist himself.

Trump: Foreign men raping american women = Awful

Trump: American men raping American women = What even is rape anyway?? Oh and, Gislaine Maxwell, great woman, one of the greatest. Had such a difficult time....

Alien is the word racists use now because they're not allowed to use the N word (or other specific racist slurs)

I fully expect what little prep Donnie did was only a couple of rehersals with Laura Loomer, in which they didn't call him out on areas of improvement, likely lauded him as an excellent debater (despite whatever trainwreck the rehersal was) and then sent him on his way. (Possibly praying that Harris would somehow screw up)

Donnie is not talented enough to rehearse something properly, and apparently when he was doing The Apprentice he couldn't even deliver what little lines he was expected to without someone prompting him. He cannot rehearse, and he certainly can't handle someone who can actually debate.

It’s a good point - some parts of the media are complicit in this Right/Left battle-

As I said above though, I’ve come to the realisation that this isn’t about two personalities -Trump and Harris- if it were, any sane person would be voting Harris.

It appears to be a battle of conservatism vs liberalism ; about fear of change vs adapting to todays fragile world and planet; about updating their values vs maintaining a way of life long past in other modern democracies.

Harris and Trump are merely the personifications of those two different worlds. As Trump said long ago, something like I could shoot someone tomorrow and still be president- he wasn’t wrong. We laughed but it’s only now that it’s dawning on me - that really is America right now.

Let’s hope every single able bodied Democrat exercises their right to vote -but even then who knows what the outcome will be.

As I understand it, sentencing has been delayed in part to allow for a Supreme Court Judgement.

A Supreme Court packed with absolute Ghouls.

There will in be another appeal on whatever that decision is, although the grounds of the appeal are frivolous at best. But you never know over there. He is aiming to get it thrown or at least a retrial.

As for him being jailed for the Hush money case, although not completely impossible, it's doubtful.

We can be hopeful though. 😀

No the delay is to avoid the appearance of election interference. The same judge will make the decision about immunity. It cannot get to the supreme court unless there is a gross miscarriage of justice - and it has to go through all the new York circuit courts before that could even be a possibility.

It will get sentenced in November, and I think the sentence will be at least a year in jail. There is no such thing as bail for a convicted felon so he will be taken to a holding cell.

I doubt it.

Trump manages to get away with the most outlandish of nonsense time and time again and has done for years now. Despite being known as an habitual liar and an actual convicted fraudster.

It's an astonishing place American politics finds itself in.

It's akin to the troublemaker in class being able to continually be disruptive because, well, he's known as the troublemaker. But if someone who's usually quiet steps out of line they're sent up to the principal's office.

Trump should be constantly fact checked on his bollocks talk because, well, most of what he says is bollocks talk and shouldn't be allowed to pollute impressionable minds. Of course, some of those "minds" are going to polluted by the choice of the owner anyway.

However it was, genuinely, a fine thing to see him get doorstepped in the debate when he blubbered out his bollocks talk about foreigners eating pets. That kind of thing should be par for the course when he comes out with his gibberish.

There is also going to be a mini trial before the election on the federal insurrection charges. New evidence will be set out and the full details of the case will be outlined before election day. Just to remind everyone what happened and who was responsible.

This is a direct consequence of the supreme court immunity ruling.

I don’t think he’ll ever see inside of a real prison cell no matter what happens.

The Supreme Court ruling won't make him immune from the hush money case because he wasn't President when he committed parts of those crimes.

Their argument is that evidence used in the trial was from the time he was President and therefore should not be allowed.

Whilst the path to the Supreme Court is extremely long and not definite, he is very much using the Supreme Court in this case, right now.

I'd say there is a more of a chance of a retrial then there is a years incarceration.