USA 2024 presidential election

Maybe because the US is not a true democracy. At least that is where the doubt is for me. I have no doubt that Harris will win the election. But it is still close in terms of can she win by enough to make the anti democratic electoral college irrelevant. Any Harris win from a tiny margin to about 2.5% is probably not enough. She needs IMHO to win by 3% at least to be sure of being president of the US. Currently her margin in the polls is a lead of between 3 and 5% so right now she is doing enough to win. But she is still dangerously close to a margin of victory which could be overturned by the anti democratic electoral college.

lot of talk on the right side that DJT may-stress may-be convinced to step down and let Ivana run.

DJT is ranting but still he may tally it all up and hand it to Ivana head to head with another female.

"Knock Knock"

"Who's there"

"Mexicans"

"Mexicans who"

"Rapists, drug dealers, insane asylum Mexicans, that's who"

It's the electoral system. A dem candidate could be 5% ahead in every national poll and still lose. The battleground states are key and multiple are far too close to call. This precise thing happened in 2016.

Trump is not a "normal" politician, he could say/do pretty much anything and wouldn't take much of a hit. Harris on the other hand is much more vulnerable in that regard. Also she's taking a dent due to being a woman.

Still far too close to call.

Only got around to watching the debate today, pretty much what you'd expect. Trump typical nonsense ramblings and Harris not answering questions, you know things are crazy when cnn are criticising Harris and ABC for being biased. Fact checking Trump is fine but they should have done the same to Harris and pushed her for answers. "they are killing the dawgs" will definitely make it onto a t-shirt and to be fair "I'm taking now, sound familiar" was funny. We learned feck all from it really, I think this will be pretty close the whole way but I do think Trump will win it

Let me guess though - you're no fan of his?

Well that's the last debate then

That begs the question. Will the VP debate still happen? Surely the Trump Campaign won't want to end the debates with JD Vance?

Well no. He's the nominee. That's it.

If he dies, it's Vance.

100% the VP debate happens, Vance has asked for a second debate a few times on CNN but don't think Waltz has much interest in that unfortunately.

What is this world salad?

He just had the look and feel of a president. Even when he spoke it felt presidential until you could see him really struggling mentally which was kind of hard to watch. Pity we didn't get Trump vs Biden in 2016

Didn't his son die just before? That's why Joe didn't run? I agree it was a pity. I imagine it's a strong regret of Bidens. There's no way Trump would have been president, and MAGA wouldn't be around anymore.

In 2015 of cancer in the brain I think. I don't know if you could handle dealing with your son dying and running a presidential campaign. Biden would have hammered Trump I believe, Trump doesn't know when to quit which is obvious so he probably would have came back 2020

I have not seen anything that suggest there is an issue with the VP debate. So I think that will go ahead early next month as scheduled.

No question Clinton was a disastrous candidate. But to be fair she actually won the election by roughly 2%. She was not elected president because the anti democratic electoral college overturned the result. Not trying to be picky. I think its an important point to acknowledge.

Well she actually did win the election because she got the most votes for president finishing roughly 2% ahead. I am well aware that the US uses the anti democratic electoral college to choose who becomes president because as we all know the electoral college overturned the democratic wishes of the majority of the voters. That is one of the big reasons as to why the US is at best only a partial democracy.

Very possibly

There is no question Clinton was a dreadful candidate. It was sheer hubris on the Democrats part that they thought they would win anyway because just look how bad the opponent was which seemed to be their mentality.

You are correct that the winner of the most votes has only failed to be elected 5 times. However that has happened now twice in modern times in 2000 and more recently in 2016 so the issue of the anti democratic nature of the electoral college has really had more focus on it given how in this current election the potential for this to happen is very real once again.

The electoral college does the very opposite of forcing candidates to try and get support all over the country. In this current election only 7 states out of 50 really matter and thus the voters of many states California and Texas among them are utterly irrelevant and paid very little attention. The only states and voters that are getting paid any real attention are those in just those 7 states out of 50.