BusConnects Dublin - Bus Network Changes Discussion

I thought there was an objection in on the N2 ref bus stops going in on Nephin Rd , I still think it would be better via Old Cabra Road and Ratoath road , the 37 will continue to be along Blackhorse so I dont see what the problem is

When the N2 reverts to Infirmary road the gates of the park will still be served by the N2 at the NCR and Parkgate so a bit of a moot point surely. Ratoath Rd is not currently served by any route along that stretch and also my suggestion would offer single-stop interconnection to the 39a corridor , while leaving Phoenix park gates < 10 mins downhill walk along the quiet dunard road.

Great to see this launching. Interesting to see it mentioned in the brochure that it has interchange opportunities with 3 different Irish Rail Stations (each on a different line), both Luas lines and of course a multitude of radial bus routes.

It will be interesting to see how well this route is used. I believe this is the first of the North/South orbitals to be a completely new route and not partially served by other routes before. The N8 will also be a completely new route.

This is brilliant to see and I will definitely be a user of it in the future. It actually gives a nice alternative for lots of journeys.

One handy one will be hopping off a train in Heuston and on to a nice waiting N2 which will whisk you around to any of the Northside corridors and your bus out to the Northside, eg Swords Rd or Finglas Rd. Very handy.

Linking over to Phoenix Park and Heuston will be good too.

It will potentially be faster to hop off the Dart at Clontarf Rd coming from the Northside and onto the N2 to get to Heuston if times line up.

Bus priority will be badly needed on Griffith Ave. / Swords Rd. Buses will die there and make peak travel frustrating.

Indeed, it's a great route, it makes trips from the northside to West Dublin so much more practical, until now it's been a case of go to ocs and get another bus there even though the start and end points are both significantly west of of ocs

It follows the 37 route , so outbound it goes left at Hanlons to North circular and right then to Blackhorse avenue and inbound from blackhorse avenue it goes straight via Aughrim street to Manor street

The proposed change to the 40e will mean it will go over the bridge but not now. And yes, during school times, it drops a lot of kids off at Cabra.

I can't wait until it uses the bridge and avoids Cabra. Even without the kids, it can be a chore to navigate that estate in Cabra

I think the bridge was modified or changes made to it just for buses (and bikes). It's kinda annoying watching cars use it, sometimes preventing the 40e from entering or exiting Broombridge.

But its still going to go through the estates in cabra , faussagh and Broombridge road ?

Reference the point of the closeness to the Phoenix park, as the n2 revised route currently stands, thats true on the face of it . However stop 4458 - beside the military cemetery - which is the closest to a park gate, leaves you into the park at the worst possible place, with a 15 min walk down to the Zoo at best , and a much longer walk either up around Ratra to any real amenities. This is very local to me and you wouldnt really see anyone on the 37 using that for Park entry, the 46a would be the real load carrier in that regard as its straight into the People's park and the Zoo

No, there'll be "new" 40E route that doesn't go through Cabra. Or at least that was the plan the last time I checked. It will go down the Ballyboggan road and over the bridge.

Further work later for luas but luas will have it's own parallel bridge deck so not necessarily that disruptive to the existing bridge

I'm sorry - here's another dumb question about the N2 and Broombridge: isn't the bridge one-way? Will the new service run both ways over the bridge? From a quick look at the route, I can see where the in/outbound routes diverge at, eg, NCR, but I didn't see any similar info at Broombridge.

I thought the existing stop outside St Michael's House might be too close to allow enough space to get into the right turning lane. However I suppose it's not much different to the eastbound N6 stop by Santry Park.

Yes, SG class buses have been transferred from Dublin Bus to Go Ahead for the N2.

They already do. Did you forget about their Kildare routes?

Honestly, that's something that's easily checked between the two routes.

In the above table, dark red waiting times are inserted if the shortest waiting time is under 6' to show what the previous/next departure allows for.

Mon-Fri isn't an issue because of N2's f-15, although the midday f-20 on N2 doesn't mesh too well with 40E's f-30. Weekends are a complete coin toss, as the N2 sports a rather uniform f-30 throughout the day, while the 40E can't settle between f-30 on Saturday mornings, f-40 midday and f-50 in the evenings. On Saturdays about every fourth N2 will leave you waiting for it beyond the next N2, on Sundays that happens with every third if not every second N2. The absolute worst part of this are Sunday mornings, where the earliest 40E arrivals mean sitting around for 50 to 65 minutes.

The main consistent thing across the entire week is that the last two N2s won't meet any 40Es, you need the third-last 23.00 ex Clontarf or 22.55 ex Heuston service to get to Tyrrelstown this way.

Also when the B spine comes about you'll have the B3 connection at manor street/stoneybatter and further along the Navan Road at the Garda station