Harris Vs Trump 2024 US Presidential election - read the warning in the OP posted 18/09/24

maybe that sort of imagine springs natural to your mind - but it wouldn't come anywhere near mine.

Maybe you really are the target.

The only people thinking that have parents who were related or rocked them too close to the wall.

Of course might not be the parents, they just could be off their meds, or be a complete cúnt, which accounts for the other parts of his base.

It isn't for no reason one of carlson's producers in fox describe his viewers as dumb cousin fúcking terrorist types

What do you think should have happened? Delay the POTUS vote to allow restart of the primaries?

Do you understand what the position of VP actually is? It is to take over from the POTUS should the need arise.

Given that 81m people voted for Harris to be VP, and she got the delegates in her party to put her as the candidate, I'm not sure what more you want.

You so understand that the selection of a party candidate does not need a national vote? The democracy is the vote for POTUS.

I live with asylum seekers as neighbours - such an image has never and will never cross my mind when I speak with them.

In fact my asylum seeker neighbour brought me cake today for having cut her lawn.

Its only basic physchology if the seed is already growing on your mind. Sick minds have sick ideas.

That's not the right comparison in the first place. The Haitians in Springfield aren't asylum seekers they are there legitimately not illegally. A more accurate comparison would be if someone walked past a black or Indian person would people think of cats being eaten. The answer is no.

Don’t think of a pink elephant.

you thought of one regardless - you can’t not

https://www.psychologytoday.com/ie/blog/letters-from-your-therapist/202303/the-pink-elephant-problem?amp

To be clear- I never asked you to develop a mental image of a pink elephant- I just told you “don’t think of pink elephants”- you’ve just admitted to me that you did.

I’m not saying you or most people will believe immigrants are “cat eaters” when you see them - that’s not what this is about - but considering we’ve been discussing this for the last page, ( and by the way this is all about Trump btw and the tactics he’s used through the years in case anyone thinks this is off topic) the term of “cat eaters” coming into your mind, which is what I’ve said all along, is most likely an inevitability at this stage-,it doesn’t mean your a bad person- it doesn’t mean you have any beliefs towards this correlation - in fact it’s clear you don’t - but that doesn’t mean the term won’t hop into your mind, even just for a moment.

Eh it took hold in 2016 - “build a wall”- remember? Thats one of the reasons he got elected and it’s sown the seeds of hate against the vulnerable and dispossessed ever since.
Trump has led polls in the area of “security”- quite significantly in fact- and he’s using this poll lead to his advantage by stirring up as much fear and as much hate as possible- because American voters have said in polls, when it comes to matter of home security they feel safer with Trump than they do with Biden/Harris.

This is all about the party election and the key issues that will drive voters towards Trump - and all I’m doing is commenting on this and bringing forward the psychological and neuro linguistic programming tactics Trump is using to get those votes.
people are taking this all too personally including name calling me - so be it. Talk about shoot the messenger- you’d swear I called someone a cat eater.

You are making an absolute fool of yourself with this amateur psychology stuff.

The point was that the claim that Pence never ran for president was false.

The question was for Trump supporters to explain what he did while he was VP.

Trump supporters don't want to admit the answer because it undermines their point.

Pence was a good VP in that he didn't go along with Trumps madness to not certify his loss.

Tell me, where have I said what he’s doing is “good”? How you could possibly jump to that conclusion with any of my posts is just ridiculous - it’s a clear case of shooting the messenger. But do of course go back and quote me verbatim where I have said this is “good”.

There are plenty of psychological studies out there on Trumps speeches and way of engaging with his audience - just one of many such studies below.

Trump has a natural speaking style which he’s greatly using to his advantage and yes, the less educated are those who are most at risk of being taken in by it. But I have said all of that a number of times but yet you and others believe this is just something I’m making up- so be it. I hope you have full consciousness on just how you processes information coming your way every day, because your post doesn’t fill me with much hope- you’ve added 2+2 and got 7

https://qz.com/965004/rhetoric-scholars-pinpoint-why-trumps-inarticulate-speaking-style-is-so-persuasive

Today's example of him being a spineless coward.....

I haven’t “experimented” in any way - I’m not sure where you’re getting that from. I asked someone not to think of piink elephant and they did, told me they did, and then denied it. It wasn’t an experiment - it’s a well known psychology theory called ironic process theory.

Using powerful and especially repulsive imagery is also an extremely powerful method of getting your message across - Trump uses this continuously - a study on mental imagery below cited more than 300 times.

Trump is surrounding himself by well known manipulators - those people know only too well the power of psychology in speeches and talks - it’s how they make their money. And the people most susceptible to such speeches are the swing voters, especially the poor white voters .

If Harris comes in all academic and big words and long sentences these people won’t hear her - but they’ll hear Trump, because his speeches are known to resonate with this audience by their simplicity repetition and the fact you have to listen closer to totally understand his ramblings

https://d1wqtxts1xzle7.cloudfront.net/50954164/The_causal_effect_of_mental_imagery_on_e20161218-8353-1sh69ml-libre.pdf?1482091916=&response-content-disposition=inline%3B+filename%3DThe_causal_effect_of_mental_imagery_on_e.pdf&Expires=1726358617&Signature=EyB1vcApswmTepv71d2u69oagvJOm6A0oVln3NVesUdcZXEJwI5RfHYtHo-VYWp0gP1cCnf0CJaEFt4EAnDHRE0vN1N-DvMhGZ9BkzdhgxyPC9n~EXDSI1isKvgAb56CUGycxLZR01Rd75reLvYnAisflj8u86xj3LLnz0mKMm8E0wbcwxe0iJg3TG~-TdYr~vUHiSZURXDe-49zvcDE1tY4wulWG0ce97Dp4xQ17cl7bXg8~EiEAGBYuX47Mg9e3~k2FXkR8nDLsPTH3vuRhPXN49Sp4hVdowaoj91c~BgMj7R26pogyIgqUAU23M6AJJ6Sw0byxBpttjANmPGHTA__&Key-Pair-Id=APKAJLOHF5GGSLRBV4ZA

So you assumed it rather that me actually saying it?

Sorry man, can't control what people infer from what I actually write.

I asked those questions as clarification. No need to get offended by them. No need to shoot the messenger.

We agree that Trump told a racist lie and this is something that disqualifies him as being a good president.

You believe that he told this racist lie because he's using magic mind control tactics and neurolingustic programming.

I believe that he told it because he's racist liar.

What you believe doesn’t matter - -it’s the impact of what Trump says on his audience of swing voters is all that matters -

True? Absolutely not.

A memorable quote? Absolutely it is - doesn’t matter if it’s for all the wrong reasons, it will stick in the memory.

Will it impact how people vote? For many no, but for some yes. They may not fully believe it or may partially believe it - but it’s the emotion that it rises that’s important. And for swing voters right now, emotion and how either Harris or Trump makes them “feel” is everything

It’s to Trumps advantage to raise fear levels- because he’s rated higher as a protector than Harris is or at least was up to recently

I’m afraid that’s not a true statement from the statistical poll you’ve posted.
Almost 25% of Independent voters believe what Trump said to be true and an additional 26% are not sure -,nothing of what you posted in that contradicts what I’ve said above

The academic studies say different - we’ll agree to disagree so

No, they don't.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neuro-linguistic_programming

There is no scientific evidence supporting the claims made by NLP advocates, and it has been called a pseudoscience.

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 Scientific reviews have shown that NLP is based on outdated metaphors of the brain's inner workings that are inconsistent with current neurological theory, and that NLP contains numerous factual errors.

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 Reviews also found that research that favored NLP contained significant methodological flaws, and that there were three times as many studies of a much higher quality that failed to reproduce the claims made by Bandler, Grinder, and other NLP practitioners.

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I have referred to NLP AND psychology throughout - studies I’ve posted are psychology related not NLP related - but considering he’s hanging out with conspiracy theorists who do use manipulation to earn their living I also referred to NLP techniques which are often used as devices of manipulation but many such techniques are rooted in pure psychology - especially the falsehoods and violent imagery

You said that academic studies showed that NLP works and wasn't nonsense.

You used the term NLP.

You are now trying to walk this back.

If you agree that NLP is nonsense and doesn't work, why did you bring it up as part of your argument. Why did you argue falsely that studies showed it worked?

Nlp can indeed work - I’m not walking back on that - but I never said it universally works