Hezbollah pager explosions

Well they actively helped the British maintain their presence in Northern Ireland for decades, so by your logic, any gardai killed by the IRA during the troubles were fair game, right?

Best guess.. somehow they managed to get hold of the pagers prior to being delivered to Hezbollah, installed explosive and technology that would cause the detonation when paged with a particular system wide message.

So they were able to intercept the pager delivery or were the 'supplier' to begin with like the FBI sting.

Some might say if that's the company you keep then so be it, the Nazis had staff that did admin!

But yeah, the idea that someone connected to Hez, not directly militarily involved, that may have been working in a school or hospital in close proximity to kids when their device detonated is nuts.

But whoever was behind this operation were obviously willing to take the chance, sure how many children and innocent people have been killed in this war already with their 'targeted' bomb strikes.

The reason they don't use phones is that's it's too easy to use apps to spy on phone use location and messaging so pagers were thought to be more secure for a terrorist group to use .we,ll probably never know how they did this

They do that with devices with batteries above a certain capacity already.

Hopefully its just a batch of devices that were explicitly armed with explosives and not a software hack that turns any battery into a bomb.

I think the idiom ‘never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity’, applies in this case.

ha! I had just referenced him and read your post after 😀

You are right. It’s highly improbably this is a regular li-ion battery blowing up. They just can’t blow like that, and not with a battery as small as one in a pager. More likely is it’s explosives.

The British weren't bombing - or letting a rogue terrorist force on their soil, bomb - whole towns in the republic either though, so you're not comparing like with like there. Much of Northern Israel has been evacuated because of Hezbollah's rockets.

As for the West Bank, I don't defend most of Israel's actions in the West Bank, including the settlers themselves. They shouldn't be there. So what's your point?

So Israel should comply with the courts decision and leave the West Bank as soon as possible? What action if any, do you feel should be taken if they don't? What should the EU and America do in response?

Is everyone now an expert in pager technology?

Not zero history for that full list. Israel while nominally a secular state has a large ultra orthodox community with considerable influence who want to enforce religious laws too.

Now THAT is a nice example of whataboutery. Somebody upthread didn't understand the meaning of the word. They should keep your posts as an illustration.

This is not the thread for that discussion. Start a thread on it if you like. But I don't agree that Hezbollah is entitled to use Lebanon as a base for its religious war against Jews because of the West Bank. If that were any sort of logic, Spain and France should have joined Ireland to get the British out. We share the same religion after all.

If regular Li-ion batteries were that good at exploding, the Ukrainians wouldn’t be strapping bombs to their FPV drones. They could just explode the much larger battery.

It was explosives that was in the pagers.

Hardly, that model uses AAA batteries.

I completely agree. Also agree with Danzy above that there's enough knowledge around.

It shouldn't have to be said that this wasn't a hack. The pagers were supplied in this form with a small explosive charge contained within them. I could speculate on the sequence used to detonate them but it's not really relevant.

They coopted 5000 pagers. Not one or two but thousands. This is alarming. How many terrorists and terror supporting nations are now figuring out how to compromise, say, a million TV remotes? Smart thermostats? Cheap smartphones, cars, watches, anything with an RF connection? How many are already compromised?

Paranoid? I'm getting there.

Thankfully I saw him mentioned on a BBC article.

But il leave the phone downstairs going to bed tonight, just in case. 😶

Quite obviously worshipping.

While I'm speculating, given the number of pagers involved, how many were on commercial airlines?

Is the amount (20g according to a quote from wandererz above, which I've no reason to doubt and probably makes it RDX or petn) detectable by airline security? Will we get to find out?

ah yeah Hezbollah are just ordinary citizens.

So many seem to forget that Israel is a proxy state of the US. The Jews are the most powerful lobbyist is the US the control finance, media including Hollywood, industry, commerce etc. etc. Ask the tenor Ronan Tynan how powerful, ruthless and evil they really are behind a facade of respectability ….he suffered greatly at their hands just for cracking a silly anti jewish joke.

Anti-semitic - warned and one day forum ban applied

I'm sure you'll be able to quote where I've done that. I mean you wouldn't be making stuff up or anything? Or, god fobid, just lying?

The difference is, I know what a country run by terrorists is really like. You imagine some noble cause, and you probably even imagine you'd have been brave enough to be part of it - but I knew lads that were beaten up or kneecapped for crimes such as "stealing" someone's girlfriend. Which says a lot about how the girlfriend is considered too.

And you can be sure if you had been there you'd never have been out in the action anyway.

Would not put it past the Israelis to monitor which hospital has the largest amount of injured and flatten it

You should put effort into making sure the Legacy and Reconciliation Act is upheld up there Volchitsa. Pesky Starmer might be adding a speedbump there. So that those brave soldiers who fought against the terrorists on Bloody Sunday etc. are not held to any account for their brave actions.

Same mentality. Same justification and logic. You wouldn't be taking a hypocritical stance now on it would you? Perhaps you are disappointed that the British administration didn't take it upon themselves to deliver mail bombs to random houses in nationalist areas? I mean, they surely would have taken out a lot of terrorists?

Yet again we have certain western fanatics celebrating the murder of children. No surprises.