The decline of FG?

Agreed. There are good ones out there but few and far between they are. The last thing we want is a repeat of 2008

Under the SF plan, you would end up with a two-tiered housing market.

The SF state land owned homes, that are worth half what the same house across the road in the private estate is worth.

As SF divert resources toward building their state land homes and social and affordable properties, the number of private homes beimg built would shrink, as the construction resource is diverted.

Providing the economy stays strong, the value of private homes would rise as supply decreases, moving private home ownership further away from the 20 and 30 somethings.

They did, but I am saying different about a potential FF/SF coalition. MM will have to be up first, and given the skeletons in the SF cupboard, their inability to get on with any other party North or South, their mad policies, and their obsession with a border poll, the coalition won't last long enough for MLMD to become Taoiseach.

tbf to ffg, they actually dont want to make things worse, but they dont have the ability to realise theres serious fundamental flaws in their thinking in regards how to approach our most critical of problems, i.e. theyre not intentionally trying to make things worse, but have no ability to realise they are….

…this dynamic isn gonna change anytime soon either, so we must prepare your kids, grand kids, nieces and nephews for an extremely unstable future…

i understand your viewpoint, and somewhat agree, but the reality is, ffg have effectively blocked up our electoral system with their confidence and supply agreements, and probably for some time to, i suspect these agreements will continue into the 30's and maybe 40's, depending on….

yes there will more than likely be a tidal shift at some point in time, but again, that may not be for some time, as the current only alternative, sf, simply dont have enough momentum within them to push through, as it stands, sf would more than likely need a significantly high voter turn out, a near majority, in order to make it impossible for ffg to be able to form another government, and that simply isnt going to happen anytime soon, and maybe never….

the electorate will indeed tire of these dynamics, but its clearly not gonna happen this decade, but maybe next, but by that stage critical entities such as housing, health care, infrastructure etc etc, will more than likely be in absolute tatters, and will more than likely require decades to resolve…..

yea this will more than likely what will eventually happen, but again, its not going to be this decade, and what will happen in that time will be devastating both socially and long term economically, its very disturbing to see that neither party can actual see this playing out in real time, being unable to read the room, being unable to pivot, both deeply locked into their ideological beliefs, and just simply ploughing on, neither have self reflective capacity to see any of this, very disturbing stuff….

i somewhat disagree there, i truly believe most established political parties from advanced nations have backed themselves into ideologically cul-de-sacs, have the serious inability to self reflect and realise their fundamental failures, and instead are just continually doubling down on the policies thats just magnifying and amplifying our most serious of issues, i do believe this is largely unintentional, but it is understandable why many believe it to be intentional.

it is disturbing to see such a large group of genuinely intelligent people, not being able to react to this, but theres clearly very strong destructive group think occurring within these political entities and parties

yup, as older generations have been the primary benefactors to policies implemented over the last few decades, i.e. asset price inflation in the form of property and other investment funds such as pension funds, but its clearly obvious, these bubbles are not sustainable, so the future of such are not looking too hot…..

I think the comfortable middle aged, small or no mortgage who did well out the bertie boom years are the ones FG/FF want to keep happy.

Only a few of older demographic really cashed out during the boom years, the rest can't be relied on to reinstate the same two hospital trolley parties.

Younger people become older. As they get older, they generally become more financially settled and vote for a govt that supports them.

I wasnt talking about FG in particular, but as FG are topping the polls, what age groups are voting for them do you think?

Yep, I read that also. Younger voters too.

true for a society with relatively stable wealth equality, but this radically changes in an environment of rapidly growing wealth inequality, which is our current state, as it badly negatively impacts whats called 'social mobility', i.e. the ability for younger generations to move from lower levels of socioeconomic status, towards higher levels over time, ffg and their supporters also dont seem to understand this dynamic either, or worse, dont care….

I didn't say they had no support.
But do the maths yourself. 20.9% from 100% It's more than 75% across all ages that don't vote FG.

Saying they have captured a particular demographic is simply not tenable.

I havent seen the stats, but I am quite sure no party has captured a demographic completley.

That said, there will be certain age groups that tend towards certain parties.

It can, but it can also stay the same. Either way, better to be front runner in the practice lap before the race.

Looks like Feb for a GE now. I did think since the summer it would be November.

Has no bearing on this election.

The point stands. Better to go into any election leading the polls, that goes without saying.

Not an FFG supporter myself, but given the choice between them or a SF led govt, the FFG option is far more stable I would say.

If you vote for it, you 'support' it.

I think the hardest thing for FF and FG to swallow is that they have been shown up to be exactly the same party, and nothing will change under either party. Their supporters will throw all their toys out of the pram and blame the greens and the far right, or the EU, or Ukraine or Israel etc etc. But they've basically have tons of money to sort out problems and they are paralyzed on what to do, and are unable to invest it wisely.

FF = FG

The emperor never had any new clothes

but given the choice between them or a SF led govt, the FFG option is far more stable I would say.

Bolding is mine. The poster very clearly states which option he/she would choose.
If you choose it, you are by the very definition of the word 'supporting it'

When the votes are being counted they don't have a wee pile for those with gritted teeth…sorry.

Now I am not going down another alley with the word fascists.