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Harris Vs Trump 2024 US Presidential election - read the warning in the OP posted 18/09/24

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,695 ✭✭✭✭duploelabs


    When you talk bollix without citation, means it can be dismissed as bollocks, even if you used the term 'fact check' doesnt mean it's fact checked



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,554 ✭✭✭✭Boggles


    Slow down. We will get there.

    Trump denied he raw dogged a porn star.

    So following your logic, he never did and that is a fact.

    Can you even see the penny?



  • Moderators, Politics Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 16,069 Mod ✭✭✭✭Quin_Dub


    It's interesting to watch the acceleration of the "centrist poster evolution" in these threads lately.

    A few months ago we'd get a new "centrist" poster who would opine about how "both sides were bad" and how balance was needed and so on.

    They would usually take a few weeks and a couple of dozen posts to devolve into full on MAGA Trumpers.

    Now though , the "Centrists" are barely lasting the day before their MAGA alter ego takes over.

    With only 6/7 weeks left to the Election , I guess they don't have time to bed down the centrist street cred before the shift to full throated MAGA.

    Saves us time I guess , but unsure why they still bother with the flaccid initial attempts at "common sense" neutrality anymore.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 561 ✭✭✭Redliketoast


    You mean the guy who was a far left Green party member? see how that works?

    Biden/Harris has gotten someone killed mate. Two assassination attempts in a few weeks.

    What did Trump say about Pelosi's husband to get him attacked? Because Biden/Harris has said that Trump is a threat to the nation. Thats what got him shot.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,105 ✭✭✭✭odyssey06


    We don't need to avoid anything when you are just making stuff up, or dumping MAGA claims here without scrutiny.
    It doesn't even reach the level of requiring debunking. It is nonsense from start to finish.
    It is just flooding the space with fake news - a declared tactic of MAGA Republicans - something you are doing to this thread, rapidly flooding it with fake news and faux concerns, hunting for the slightest mud to sling at Democrats while giving a free pass to the objectively well documented transgressions of Republicans.

    Evidence provided to support your wild claims… zero.
    Evidence provided that "Biden\Harris rubbish" has killed someone… zero.
    Evidence provided that it resulted in the two assassination attempts… zero.

    Incredible in the same post you are posting on an Irish message board about why would any one be influenced by what Trump said… as you verbatim dump MAGA propaganda on the thread and go to bat for Republicans against Democrats.
    Read that back to yourself.
    You're not fooling anyone.

    If you have any credible coherent argument, you wouldn't have to resort to this nonsense.

    Are you trying to out beat Trump's record to see who can dump more pro-Republican anti-Democrat fake news in a short space of time?
    He was tracked at 4 lies a minute in one debate.

    "To follow knowledge like a sinking star..." (Tennyson's Ulysses)



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,131 ✭✭✭Shoog


    Oh dear, you seem incapable of honestly reading the actual words that Donny speaks from his holey hole.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,109 ✭✭✭✭everlast75


    "Firstly who cares what he did with a porn star?"

    That wasn't the question.

    The question went to his credibility, as he denied doing it.

    Any chance you could address the point being made, or is Gish gallop your "go to" reaction everytime?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 561 ✭✭✭Redliketoast


    I wasnt fact checking. I was suggesting thats where the fact check should have taken place.

    The fact that you dont even believe does fact checks says it all tbh



  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 27,249 Mod ✭✭✭✭Podge_irl


    so who exactly were these non neonazis and non white suprematist fine people who were in a march chanting “Jews will not replace us”?

    Again he may as well have been saying there are fine people at a Klan rally, just not the racists.



  • Registered Users Posts: 5,381 ✭✭✭Cody montana


    Ah jesus, not another day of this!



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 85,015 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    so no “fact check” Trump hasn’t said anything to trigger assassination attempts. Interesting.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 561 ✭✭✭Redliketoast


    Ryan Routh repeated the Biden/Harris claims about Trump and then went on to try to kill him. You dont think that the rhetoric has led to the attempt on him?


    What fake news have I said?

    I have provided transcripts of the Bloodbath and the "very fine people" debunks



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,512 ✭✭✭eightieschewbaccy


    So just to clarify, you declared the unaffiliated guy as a Democrat but the green party member who also viewed the election to have been robbed(guess who said that) is not a Trump fan or motivated by his rhetoric?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 85,015 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    Ryan Routh repeated the Biden/Harris claims about Trump and then went on to try to kill him. You dont think that the rhetoric has led to the attempt on him

    Paul Pelosi’s attacker repeated claims made by Trump and went on to try and kill him and Nancy, your response: 🤷🏻‍♂️



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,512 ✭✭✭eightieschewbaccy


    In fairness, @Redliketoast doesn't seem to view the guy who described a bullet in Alvin Bragg's head to be a danger... He seems to very creative in terms of what is and isn't dangerous.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,695 ✭✭✭✭duploelabs


    When you 'fact check' you cite a source, that (for the 3rd time in 24 hours) is how it works



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,321 ✭✭✭✭King Mob


    Oh if we're just making things up then…

    But in reality, those bomb threats were real and they were actually caused by Trump's racist lie.

    The fact you have to invent a conspiracy to avoid this issue just highlights your offence is purely for show.

    Honestly, who do you think is falling for that?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,321 ✭✭✭✭King Mob


    No that wasn't a threat you see. Trump supporters were just setting up a frame to display a banner. They just needed a good strong base for it.

    And the noose was just to hoist the banner up you see. Turns out that a lot of Trump supporters only know how to tie nooses for some reason…



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,980 ✭✭✭✭aloyisious


    I'll respond to you just this once. The only people in the out-of-town group were neo-Nazis and Proud Boys. Take from that, when looking at Trumps comment about there "being good people on both sides", what you want.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,105 ✭✭✭✭odyssey06


    Just today the was conspiracy theory drivel about an ABC whistle blower, you refuse to provide any credible evidence to support your wild claims which are obviously another MAGA hoax you have fallen for - obvious fake news which shouldn't be fooling anyone. Trump lost the debate to Harris, she played him like a violin, Trump supporters can't accept their cult leader lost the debate to Harris, so out come the conspiracy theories.

    As for the transcripts, they prove nothing except that you have fallen for Trump talking about out both sides of his mouth. Your claims have no credibility as you have demonstrated in your posts your complete inability to subject Trump's remarks and conduct to basic scrutiny.

    The very fine people comment clearly applied to neo nazis and white supremacists because the fact checks show that it who was at the rally. Trump lied about who was at the rally so he could dog whistle to them that they were very fine people. He was clearly signalling to them they could think of themselves as very fine people even after they shouted anti semitic slogans.

    Let's remember that Trump no stranger to racist vomit himself, with multiple documented examples from him, his campaign, his stooge VP and wingbuts like Loomer.

    Your entire line of argument has been totally discredited multiple times already and it doesn't get any more convincing given the numerous wild and false claims you have already posted to the thread.

    If Routh thought that about Trump, the only person Trump can blame is himself.
    So it was Trump's actions (January 6th etc) and inactions (on gun control) that led to the attempt on him.

    Anybody paying attention can see Trump is a threat to US democracy and the constitution. He already tried to steal one election.

    No rhetoric required from Biden and Harris, and to criticise them for their justified criticism about Trump would be to give Trump a free pass for his conduct. That would be a morally and politically bankrupt outcome.

    What will the next call be? The media shouldn't have reported on Trump's attempts to subvert the election and the January 6th riots, even though they reported factually, because it might give someone a bad opinion of Trump!

    If Trump's doesn't want to be called a threat to democracy he shouldn't have tried to steal an election. Blaming the Democrats for calling attention to Trump's reprehensible conduct is absurd, without merit and without foundation and just gives a free pass for such conduct.


    "To follow knowledge like a sinking star..." (Tennyson's Ulysses)



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,007 ✭✭✭✭Snake Plisken


    Prove it! that i could well be some TDS lunatic on the left ringing them in so they could blame it on Trump. Let's be honest there are plenty of deranged headbanger's who hate Trump



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 561 ✭✭✭Redliketoast


    I have provided both video and transcript of him calling out neo mazis and white supremacists in that group. He claimed that there was also normal people demonstrating at the event. He said they were the fine people.

    I have stated this multiple times and this has been debunked multiple times. At this point ignoring the facts is either incompetence or ignorance.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,105 ✭✭✭✭odyssey06


    There were no such normal people just racist scum. So yes at this point you are ignoring the facts.

    Trump a racist scumbag himself was telling the racist scumbags they were fine people.

    "To follow knowledge like a sinking star..." (Tennyson's Ulysses)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,109 ✭✭✭✭everlast75




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,321 ✭✭✭✭King Mob


    Or, mad thought, there's a bunch of racists out there who'd believe obvious racist lies from their racist lying king.

    You're welcome to prove your conspiracy theory that these bomb threats are the result of a false flag from whatever "TDS lunatics" are.

    But we all know that's not something you or other Trump supporters will do.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,932 ✭✭✭✭Tell me how


    Exactly. I'm done with that poster.

    They clearly take Trumps words as fact, despite the overwhelming counter evidence.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,321 ✭✭✭✭King Mob


    I think that these types know full well that they're lying and rewriting reality. They just assume that's what everyone else is doing.

    The alternative is to consider that they might be wrong. Which is not permitted.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 85,015 ✭✭✭✭Overheal




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,980 ✭✭✭✭aloyisious


    Seeing that the heated air in the presidential race has resulted in one unsuccessful assassination attempt resulting in two fatalities and one wounding of a candidate, and one apparent unsuccessful preparation for an assassination attempt on the previously wounded candidate, perhaps you might consider who could be accused of being responsible for an attempt on, or murder by way of assassination, of the other candidate, with Trump sounding off about candidate assassinations instead of him turning the temperature down to unwind a certain class of unsettled people.

    Trump has complained about the democrats being responsible for the unsuccessful attempt because they have used "target" expressions in their campaign Ads against him. Over to you, with you keeping in mind I will not respond except for a read of your response.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,078 ✭✭✭Rawr


    I had logging in this morning and saw 100+ posts thinking; "Oooo, what important thing happened?"

    And then I opened the thread and I was like "Oh…..god damn it….*this* again"

    Alas, this is pretty much a microcosm of what regular everyday Americans have had to put up with for years and alas also likely for a good few years to come. Any attempt to discuss actual constuctive politics will be railroaded by contrarians who insist that fiction is reality and their horrendious life-choices are somehow the path to an enriching & healthy life. This is what MAGA does to America, and this is also what MAGA does to our own attempts here to discuss American politics.

    Just like our American cousins, I feel that we must also continue to champion the value of truth against those who would rather serve the facist whims of a select group of people and spread falsehoods while they gleefully do it.



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