Harris Vs Trump 2024 US Presidential election - read the warning in the OP posted 18/09/24

"Firstly who cares what he did with a porn star?"

That wasn't the question.

The question went to his credibility, as he denied doing it.

Any chance you could address the point being made, or is Gish gallop your "go to" reaction everytime?

so no “fact check” Trump hasn’t said anything to trigger assassination attempts. Interesting.

Ryan Routh repeated the Biden/Harris claims about Trump and then went on to try to kill him. You dont think that the rhetoric has led to the attempt on him

Paul Pelosi’s attacker repeated claims made by Trump and went on to try and kill him and Nancy, your response: 🤷🏻‍♂️

When you 'fact check' you cite a source, that (for the 3rd time in 24 hours) is how it works

No that wasn't a threat you see. Trump supporters were just setting up a frame to display a banner. They just needed a good strong base for it.

And the noose was just to hoist the banner up you see. Turns out that a lot of Trump supporters only know how to tie nooses for some reason…

Just today the was conspiracy theory drivel about an ABC whistle blower, you refuse to provide any credible evidence to support your wild claims which are obviously another MAGA hoax you have fallen for - obvious fake news which shouldn't be fooling anyone. Trump lost the debate to Harris, she played him like a violin, Trump supporters can't accept their cult leader lost the debate to Harris, so out come the conspiracy theories.

As for the transcripts, they prove nothing except that you have fallen for Trump talking about out both sides of his mouth. Your claims have no credibility as you have demonstrated in your posts your complete inability to subject Trump's remarks and conduct to basic scrutiny.

The very fine people comment clearly applied to neo nazis and white supremacists because the fact checks show that it who was at the rally. Trump lied about who was at the rally so he could dog whistle to them that they were very fine people. He was clearly signalling to them they could think of themselves as very fine people even after they shouted anti semitic slogans.

Let's remember that Trump no stranger to racist vomit himself, with multiple documented examples from him, his campaign, his stooge VP and wingbuts like Loomer.

Your entire line of argument has been totally discredited multiple times already and it doesn't get any more convincing given the numerous wild and false claims you have already posted to the thread.

If Routh thought that about Trump, the only person Trump can blame is himself.
So it was Trump's actions (January 6th etc) and inactions (on gun control) that led to the attempt on him.

Anybody paying attention can see Trump is a threat to US democracy and the constitution. He already tried to steal one election.

No rhetoric required from Biden and Harris, and to criticise them for their justified criticism about Trump would be to give Trump a free pass for his conduct. That would be a morally and politically bankrupt outcome.

What will the next call be? The media shouldn't have reported on Trump's attempts to subvert the election and the January 6th riots, even though they reported factually, because it might give someone a bad opinion of Trump!

If Trump's doesn't want to be called a threat to democracy he shouldn't have tried to steal an election. Blaming the Democrats for calling attention to Trump's reprehensible conduct is absurd, without merit and without foundation and just gives a free pass for such conduct.

"TDS lunatic"

Oh dear...…

Exactly. I'm done with that poster.

They clearly take Trumps words as fact, despite the overwhelming counter evidence.

please circle which people are the fine people:

I had logging in this morning and saw 100+ posts thinking; "Oooo, what important thing happened?"

And then I opened the thread and I was like "Oh…..god damn it….*this* again"

Alas, this is pretty much a microcosm of what regular everyday Americans have had to put up with for years and alas also likely for a good few years to come. Any attempt to discuss actual constuctive politics will be railroaded by contrarians who insist that fiction is reality and their horrendious life-choices are somehow the path to an enriching & healthy life. This is what MAGA does to America, and this is also what MAGA does to our own attempts here to discuss American politics.

Just like our American cousins, I feel that we must also continue to champion the value of truth against those who would rather serve the facist whims of a select group of people and spread falsehoods while they gleefully do it.

So whats the MAGA talking point today, is it that Trump ACED the debate or is it that the debate was rigged against Trump.

Last time I looked Trump claimed to have won biggly, and of course we are supposed to take everything he says as gospel.

Its hard to keep up.

"There has been no assassination attempty because of what Trump has said" Yes, true as far as we know. But this is despite the inflammatory language coming from Trump and others (Communist Kamala, Fascist Kamala, etc).

Kamala Harris, Tim Walz and Joe Biden have all been forthright in their disdain for Trump an all he stands for. But have they said anything which is remotely as provocative as the language used by Trump?

Trump is "surprised" that Harris was able to answer the questions so easily. It seems he never heard of preparation for an exam.

Marge has walked back claiming that the channel rigged the debate by giving Harris the questions in advance after the man who "leaked" the fix memo died in a car crash.