Newstalk Megathread Nov 2022

Not really to be honest the odd time, big games. But I honestly don’t think the six nations is as great as some people make it out to be.

Plus I enjoy the League in the GAA best competition the GAA has in my opinion. Obviously could be improved IMO. And the GAA doesn’t do ‘hype’. Now I didn’t hear the Newstalk fella blathering on about Rugby.

But if I did my eyes would gloss over and think - World Cup Rugby latter stages is where it is at. I don’t really buy the hyperbolic Rugby chat. Do it in a Rugby WC is my view- so many false dawns. Six Nations who cares- in comparison?

Now I might be the minority (I don’t know) but the impression I get from the Rugby is that it is a hardcore viewership that drives it. Not many casual watchers like myself.

And I am not knocking any Rugby diehards it is their thing. But it doesn’t ‘grab’ me. Seems s stale format - six nations. Could be done a lot better. To match the hype.

The GAA don't do hype! Are you joking?

The marketing and hyping of gaa has been on a different level for the last decade or more. Do you never hear the adverts for it, with the Hollywood style voiceovers?

- Where we all belong.

- missing the shift

- arch rivals become close teammates

I could go on. The 2 sports are hyped beyond belief now, despite only a handful of counties being able to win it.

Ironic the new NT podcast rehabilitation of Bertie is called 'As I remember it', as the poor dear was dogged with memory problems a few years back.

At a guess, Bertie's being coached by The Communications Clinic, and as they [TCC] are hand in hand with a certain talent management agency, this agency's 'talent' is being brought into play. C-C-C- Ciara went throuh a phase of name-dropping the lovely Mrs Prone every chance she got not too long ago.

A poster picked up on it in the last thread

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/2057638142/newstalk-megathread-22-08-16-to-date/p62

You really wouldn't be up to these fookers

Remind me, what's Shock-tin Irish for? If I had to guess from the length of Conradh na NNNNNNNNNNGaeilge's annual "How do you do, fellow paisti?" cash bonfire, I think it's a month.

Ciara Kelly interviewing Gino Kenny (PBP) on the breakfast show today. She was hostile from second 1. Why invite the man on if you're going to continually speak over him?

All the more reason to let him talk so as to demonstrate how unhinged him and his manifesto is. A skilled interviewer would have filleted him

Ciara is not that interviewer

True to an extent but the difference is the GAA parish boundaries change. Counties can be moved into different provinces or groups dependent on the nature of the competition. In Rugby it is unbelievably stale.

The ‘triple crown’ used to be ‘it’ yet somehow it’s importance is not dialled down. Meaningless since France were in it about 100 years ago -1910. What do 6 nations Rugby do? They invent a triple crown trophy 2006. If that is not hyperbole on the past 4 nations competition as is I don’t know what is.

The game was in Rome and it was far from one sided. You really need to stop talking about something you clearly have no clue about.

Oh yeah so it was still packed though. Point stands nice jolly in Rome. GAA wouldn’t do half as well at one sided games. Marketing piss poor. But where Rugby goes wrong is staleness of competition. Yet all the Rugby heads watch Ireland v Italy mind boggles. AVIVA would be packed next year as well v Italy- marketing.

But it was a lopsided onsided game. Ireland giving lads a run out. Expensive trip to Rome.

Jayus I was thinking if Terry Prone herself was brought in by the GAA - they wouldn’t have filled PUC - Cork v Dublin which was a competitive match against two well met teams. And the NHL/NFL is the GAA’s best competition but it is as if they don’t know what do with it.

Yet Rugby (without Terry Prone) get the crowds out. Provincial rugby massive success in the last few decades. Crowds out in force - marketed properly. It used to be two men and a dog.

Rugby gets great coverage in the media particularly on Newstalk with Joe Molloy etc (VM link) Especially this time of year. And the GAA have themselves as barely an afterthought.

It is the lack of marketing I blame. GAA should be pushing more. Jazz things up a bit. Where is the GAA Matt Williams equivalent? He would hype up anything with an oval ball.

Last 6 nations match I was at they had flames in the AVIVA flames with the big intro! GAA would never have flames.

He suggested that Fiana fail and Fine Gael are orchestrating far right groups right now.

He's a crank and very bit as dangerous and delusional as his far right counterparts.

Apart from the "good cop/bad cop" schtick and her hectoring of guests, this is what makes me most want to turn off. It sounds utterly affected - I'm assuming it's not, maybe it's just a habit or as you say a tic..... but it's awful to listen to.

Sounds wrong, have they been at Google Translate?

I heard the interview and I was gnashing my teeth. He is not the most articulate guest to have on a show, and that's an understatement. He was woeful to listen to, couldn't finish a point or a sentence and yes Ciara jumped right in to finish him off every time.

In her defence it was almost 9o'clock and Pat Kenny was waiting to take over, Gino's inability to sound even a tiny bit coherent obviously allowed this to happen, too many ifs and buts, hmmms and hawwwss....... I have no sympathy for him, if you're being given a slot of live radio at least have your wits about you and be prepared to make a few points! Woeful stuff!

🤣.

If it's not Terry Prone it's Dr Eva , and saying the same things over and over.

Pure linguistic snobbery, pretending to know a language by throwing out a few pre-rehearsed scraps. Great that he got called out.

Maybe he wasn't a regular listener or maybe he was being nice, but it did make Coleman feel uncomfortable, albeit momentarily.

It's clear that the level Coleman is at is 'spoofer'.

Anton's Mammy whinging about there being too many white males. Nepotism is fine though.

I'm far from a native gaeilgeoir but I do wonder how authentic an Irish phrase 'Tá tu suas chun Dáta' is.

Is it not ok for a language to evolve with new phrases even if the context or how the phrase was built was influenced from another language ?

And if enough people use it, it becomes the norm anyway.

Grating though it may sound initially to purists, surely it's a step forward to in some part?

I've yet to hear anyone come up with a different, or more authentic way of saying "you are up to date" in Irish.

If you don't know the correct phrase, how do you know that that one is wrong?

Well hello stranger!

I don't disagree with any of what you've posted at all!

I also adore "mo bhicicle", and all the localisms that abound in the different regions - I spent a week on a Gaeltacht course in N Donegal, and for someone who learned a mish-mash of Connaught/Munster Irish in school, it was like trying to learn Swahili! It was almost literally a different language (they had a completely different word for "cailín" - it's so long ago now that I've forgotten what it was - and their "conas a tá tú" was "guí Dé mar a tá tú" - with apologies if that's incorrectly spelt!) and everything was pronounced completely differently (as indeed it is in English!)

I will never be able to make peace with "tá tú suas chun dáta" - but like I say, when I went looking online there it was all over the place, being used as an everyday phrase, by native speakers in all sorts of contexts - so even if it's not technically or lyrically correct, it seems to have found its way into the language along with the "wycicle" and similar to "je vais au camping pour le weekend" in French.