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Russia-Ukraine War

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 259 ✭✭Avatar in the Post


    Normal country… 6 red cards


    https://twitter.com/epicredcards/status/1837530966677397919



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,123 ✭✭✭✭breezy1985


    Someone needs to put that to Benny Hill music.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,141 ✭✭✭RoyalCelt


    With so much money and resources being focused on this war I'd imagine many vanity projects like the space program are suffering.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,141 ✭✭✭thatsdaft


    One week left to retake Kursk as per Putin’s deadline and that’s going backwards

    Also ISW, Telegraph and others report that up to 40,000 troops were transferred to Kursk now, so much for armchair generals proclaiming Russia won’t fall for it, notice how we don’t hear anything about Povrovsk anymore either from usual suspects



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,023 ✭✭✭Mike3549


    Deadline is oct 15 now.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 259 ✭✭Avatar in the Post




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,141 ✭✭✭thatsdaft




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 259 ✭✭Avatar in the Post


    Russia has plenty to recruit from I tell ya 😂

    https://ukdefencejournal.org.uk/russian-aircraft-carrier-crew-sent-to-frontline-in-ukraine/


    Id say you’ll soon be paying high class hooker money for the likes of a plumber in Moscow.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,133 ✭✭✭✭ejmaztec


    Who's manning all the ships taking part in the joint exercises with the Chinese, or are all the Russian ships operated by remote control with no crews onboard? 😶



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,141 ✭✭✭thatsdaft


    The same exercises where Russia claims more ships are partaking than all of their fleets had to begin with before this war started, never mind chunk of black fleet being sent to bottom of sea?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,133 ✭✭✭✭ejmaztec


    Perhaps they gave China some free oil so they'd go along with it, and promise not to mention that the two hundred ships is actually a leaky tugboat that was rescued from a scrapyard?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,649 ✭✭✭✭Mr. CooL ICE


    You're jumping the gun there by assuming they have somebody alive to operate a remote control



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,125 ✭✭✭pcardin




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,742 ✭✭✭✭TheValeyard


    All eyes on Kursk. Slava Ukraini.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,679 ✭✭✭Field east


    is it not Halloween time a la Russian style . Russia do everything big because it is such a powerful nation and it reckons that it is the best at everything!!!!!!!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 563 ✭✭✭junkyarddog


    It's all going according to plan,Apparently!



  • Registered Users Posts: 231 ✭✭AngeloArgue


    Seems the Russians are threatening to use their new "avangard" hypersonic missiles in response to western supplied ballistic missiles hitting targets in Russia. These are meant to be launched like nuclear warhead MIRVs from a sarmat ICBM missile in a low earth orbit, reaching speeds of over 20 mach.

    Trouble is they don't work. Back to the drawing board Putin!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,742 ✭✭✭✭TheValeyard




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,361 ✭✭✭Padre_Pio


    I would imagine the Ukranians would send a drone into the open nuclear missile silo if the Russians actually tried to launch.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,141 ✭✭✭RoyalCelt


    First time FAB's have reached this city. Very frustrating when a few extra patriots would never allow this.

    Power outages in the city as a result.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 947 ✭✭✭SchrodingersCat


    The Lancet UAV has been an effective weapon for Russia against Ukrainian artillery and air defences. It looks like the Ukrainians may have found a strong counter measure against them.



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,071 ✭✭✭purplepanda


    That rising column of fire, smoke & debris reminds me of that auld '50's Quatermast of the Pit film in the final battle with the ancient martians reincarnated, it even has the 2 "evil looking eyes", all it needs is the "devil" type horns. I'm beginning to think it's CGI film effects LOL!

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GT3W6mhvdMY



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,141 ✭✭✭thatsdaft


    Yesterdays episode was on Russian failures in Kursk and more interestingly an interview with Bloomberg writer who just published book on sanctions against Russia

    Interesting point made near end that even tho Ukrainians haven’t targeted Russian energy infrastructure (as that enters questionable territory of war crimes) its falling apart on its own as Russia lost access to markets to get replacements, they cobble together solutions but often takes weeks and they have to keep dipping into their gold reserves which are rapidly dwindling especially now that they get much less than oil cap for their oil



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 947 ✭✭✭SchrodingersCat


    The Russian rumour mill is in full swing trying to comprehend how the Ukrainians are getting through their defences to destroy the ammo depots. They are suggesting “invisible drones” that cannot be picked up by radar.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,587 ✭✭✭Jinglejangle69


    Remember when Ukraine were hitting Crimea hard, whatever happened to that, was their a strategic aim?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,141 ✭✭✭thatsdaft


    Patent ******: Method for remotely (via directed satellite emissions) of exciting the atoms in a lithium ion battery

    🤣

    tl.dr; it’s pagers



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,141 ✭✭✭thatsdaft


    Sink good chunk of the Russian Black Sea fleet and open up trade by breaking up the blockade?

    Which they done, with shipping volumes that earn Ukraine much needed funds now exceeding prewar levels

    Next step they should blockade Russian trade from black sea



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,123 ✭✭✭✭breezy1985


    Overturning the Russian advantage in the Black Sea is something Ukraine don't get enough credit for. Russia had total control and the Ukrainian navy was wiped out almost immediately.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,141 ✭✭✭thatsdaft


    The Times apparently thinks Zelenskys plan is to push Putin to come to negotiating table



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,112 ✭✭✭RGARDINR


    I just don't know how point 1 would work if Russia is still in Ukraine. Is this for when hostilities stop and Ukraine have 100% back their land from Russia? Other points I definitely think should happen straight away just not sure when point 1 could unless Russia are 100% out of Ukraine.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,344 ✭✭✭keeponhurling


    victory plan :

    1. Remove restrictions on weapons
    2. Release the $300-odd billion to Ukraine. Consider it reparations in advance.
    3. Enhance air defenses, including NATO shooting down missiles and drones in Western Ukraine
    4. Wherever possible, enhance primary and secondary sanctions
    5. Allow Ukraine (or israel) to strike weapons factories in Iran
    6. Communicate to China that they need to play their part to end the war, or North Korea becomes a legitimate target and war spreads to their doorstep, and the refugees that go with that


    Job done ✅



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,849 ✭✭✭Paddigol


    It's phenomenal actually. The Russian military has been comprehensively out-though and out-fought by their Ukrainian counterparts. It's hard to imagine any other world 'power' being as humiliated as the Russians have been. They had everything going for them - surprise, massive weight of numbers, battle starting according to their prepared and rehearsed plans, air superiority, navy superiority… and yet there they are, reduced to throwing conscripts and convicts into WW1 style meat wave assaults and lobbing dumb artillery at Ukrainian towns, villages and defensive lines.

    I hope Ukraine is given what it needs in order to drop kick the Russians back over the border and do the world a favour by surely leading to the demise of Uncle Vlad.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,519 ✭✭✭Dubh Geannain


    Japan fired flares to warn airspace violating Russian aircraft.

    Japan says Russian patrol aircraft violated its airspace | Reuters



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,411 ✭✭✭thomil


    Hold up, hold up, hold up…

    Did I see that right that they’re using a liquid-fuelled first stage on their supposed wonder weapon? That’s a major step backwards, as well as a major vulnerability, just look at the Titan-II explosion in Damascus. There’s a reason the US phased out their last liquid-fuelled ICBMs in the 1980s. Even if the Sarmat does not use the same tank construction as the Titan-II, which contributed to the Damascus incident, liquid fuels do not lend themselves to having fuelled up rockets in the silo over extended periods of time. Not to mention that the time needed to fuel the missile before launch makes it extremely vulnerable to first strikes…

    Good luck trying to figure me out. I haven't managed that myself yet!



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,141 ✭✭✭thatsdaft


    So much for the “Russia has endless manpower” meme

    “Russia is struggling to meet manpower demands”

    Oh it’s not just them, you see using liquid fuel has advantages of you are a corrupt regime where maintainers can sell on the fuel and replace it with water



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,702 ✭✭✭flutered


    sorry i am unable to make a link for this, as it is long it is up to date, a map will help

    In the operational zone of the Ukrainian Operational Group of Forces (OTG) "Kharkiv" on the Kharkiv direction, the enemy attempted an assault near Vovchansk. Enemy aircraft also struck residential areas in Kharkiv with guided bombs (KAB), causing civilian casualties and damage to infrastructure.

    In the "Khortytsia" Operational-Strategic Group of Forces (OSG) operational zone on the Kupyansk direction, the invaders launched seven attacks. Ukrainian defense forces repelled assaults near Synkivka, Stepova Novoselivka, Kruhlyakivka, Kotlyarivka, Stelmakhivka, and Lozova. On the Lyman direction, the enemy attacked 28 times, attempting to break through the defense near Druzhelyubivka, Cherneshchyna, Hrekivka, Nevske, Torske, Terny, Makiivka, Novosadove, and Bilohorivka. On the Siversk direction, Ukrainian Defense Forces repelled an assault near Vyimka. On the Kramatorsk direction, the occupiers launched 11 attacks in the areas of Kalynivka, Mayske, Andriivka, and Bila Hora. On the Toretsk direction, with air support, the enemy carried out 12 attacks near Nelipivka, Toretsk, and Shcherbynivka.

    In the "Tavriya" OSG operational zoneon the Pokrovsk direction, Ukrainian Defense Forces stopped 28 enemy attacks near Vozdvyzhenka, Novotoretsk, Krasnyi Yar, Novohrodivka, Selydove, Marynivka, and Mykhailivka. The highest concentration of enemy attacks was near Selydove. On the Kurakhove direction, Ukrainian Defense Forces repelled 25 attacks, with the heaviest fighting near Heorhiivka. Additionally, the enemy attacked towards Tsukuryne, Hirnyk, Kostyantynivka, Katerynivka, and Zhelanne Druhe. On the Vremivka direction the enemy conducted nine assaults near Vuhledar, Katerynivka, Vodyane, and Pavlivka, using bomber aircraft heavily. On the Hulyaipole direction, Russian forces unsuccessfully attacked near Hulyaipole. On the Orikhiv direction, the occupiers attempted 4 assaults on Ukrainian positions near Robotyne, Novoandriivka, and Novodanylivka.

    Operations continue in Kursk Oblast, where enemy aircraft continue to level their own villages and towns. Over the past day, Russian planes conducted 26 airstrikes dropping 33 guided bombs (KAB) on their own territory.

    On the Volyn and Polissya directions, no signs of enemy assault group formation have been detected.

    Along the border with Chernihiv and Sumy Oblasts, the enemy actively uses artillery and aircraft from Russian territory to strike Ukrainian towns and villages.

    General conclusion:

    • On the Kramatorsk direction, Russian infantry primarily attacks using buggies, motorcycles, and all-terrain vehicles due to significant losses in military equipment.
    • Russian forces have halted frontal assaults on Ukrainian positions in eastern Ukraine and are now focused on encircling Ukrainian positions to seize territory, particularly near Hirnyk and Selydove.
    • On the Kurakhove direction, the enemy launched two large-scale assaults near Maksymilianivka and Hostre, each time deploying up to a reinforced battalion, which is unusual compared to typical combat actions. This heavy concentration of forces highlights how critical success in this area is for the enemy.
    • Ukrainian Defense Forces conducted drone strikes on the 23rd GRAU Arsenal of the Russian Ministry of Defense in Tver Oblast, on the 719th ammunition storage base in Tikhoretsk, Krasnodar Krai, and on the long-range aviation base in Shaykovka, Kaluga Oblast. Additionally, the "Podlet-1K" air defense radar, which was responsible for detecting low-flying targets near Tikhoretsk, was hit.

    Change in the line of contact (LoC):

    • There were 163 combat engagements on various fronts.
    • On the Kursk Direction, "Siversk" OTG continued offensive actions south of Glushkovo, near Novyi Put, Medvezhie, on the western outskirts of Liubimovka, and towards Kamyshovka.
    • The enemy's 83rd Separate Air Assault Brigade advanced south of Kamyshovka, while the 51st Airborne Regiment of the 106th Airborne Division counterattacked near Liubimovka and near Kremyanoe. Units of the 106th Airborne Division fight southeast of Snagost near Nikolaevo-Daryino, while the 234th Air Assault Regiment of the 76th Air Assault Division is transitioning to defense in the Nizhnii Mordok area.
    • The command of the counterterrorist operation in Kursk Oblast begun forming a defensive line along the E38 highway on the Rylsk– Lukashevka section. Units transitioning to defense on this line include the 60th Separate Motorized Rifle Brigade of the 5th Army (Rylsk), the 459th Motorized Rifle Regiment (Selektsionnyi), the 83rd Motorized Rifle Regiment (Lgov), the 217th Airborne Regiment of the 98th Airborne Division (Klishino), the 87th Motorized Rifle Regiment (named after K. Liebknecht), and the 252nd Motorized Rifle Regiment of the 3rd Motorized Rifle Division (Lukashevka). Units of the 98th Airborne Division, arriving from the Kramatorsk direction, are concentrating in the Akimovka–Markovo–Sukhaya area. On the Ulanok–Borki–state border line, paramilitary formations "Arbat," "Sarmat," the 1428th Motorized Rifle Regiment, the 30th Motorized Rifle Regiment of the 72nd Motorized Rifle Division of the 44th Army Corps, the 24th Separate SOF Brigade, and the 382nd Separate Marines Battalion of the 810th Marine Brigade of the Black Sea Fleet are transitioning to defense.
    • On the Kharkiv direction, Russian forces made slight advances near Lyptsi, Vovchansk, and within the summer home area west of Hlyboke. The enemy is deploying "Akhmat" blocking units.
    • On the Kupyansk direction, Russian forces captured Kyslivka. The enemy attacked near Synkivka, Kruhlyakivka, Stepova Novoselivka, Lozova, and Stelmakhivka.
    • On the Lyman direction, Russian forces are trying to capture Nevske, and fighting continues in northern Makiivka. The enemy attacked near Druzhelyubivka, Cherneshchyna, Novosadove, Zarichne, Hrekivka, and near Torske.
    • On the Siversk Direction, Russian forces continued their offensive near Vyimka but made no progress.
    • On the Kramatorsk direction, Russian forces attacked near Chasiv Yar, Kalynivka, towards Mayske, near Ivanivske, Andriivka, and Bila Hora.
    • On the Toretsk direction, Russian forces made slight advances in the center of Toretsk and the center of Leonidivka. They attacked in the areas of Dachne, Toretsk, Nelipivka, and towards Shcherbynivka.
    • On the Pokrovsk direction, Russian forces advanced west and southwest of Hrodivka and reached the eastern outskirts of Mykolaivka. They advanced west of Ukrainsk and captured the "Selydivska" mine, continuing their offensive in the areas of Vozdvyzhenka, Novotoretske, Zelene Pole, Krasnyi Yar, Novohrodivka, Sukhyi Yar, Marynivka, Mykhailivka, Selydove, Myrolyubivka, Lisivka, Zhelanne Pershe, Tsukuryne, and Hirnyk.
    • On the Kurakhove direction, Russian forces launched an assault near Maksymilianivka and attempted to break through Ukrainian positions 24 times. The enemy advanced in the eastern part of Hostre. They also attacked near Heorhiivka, Oleksandrivka, and towards Dalnie.
    • On the Vremivka direction, units of the 5th Separate Tank Brigade of the 36th Army advanced northeast of Prechystivka. The enemy attacked Ukrainian Defense Forces' positions near Kostyantynivka with a reinforced battalion.
    • Russian forces continued offensive actions near Kostyantynivka, Katerynivka, Bohoyavlenka, Vuhledar, Novoukrayinka, and Prechystivka.
    • On the Orikhiv direction, Russian forces attacked near Hulyaipole, in the areas of Robotyne, Novoandriivka, Lobkove, and Mala Tokmachka.
    • In the Black Sea-Azov naval operational area, the enemy naval group on combat duty consists of:
      • Black Sea: 1 ship, including 1 cruise missile carrier; the total salvo is 4 cruise missiles.
      • Mediterranean Sea: 1 ship, 1 cruise missile carrier; the total salvo is 16 cruise missiles.

    Changes in the enemy disposition:

    • The 33rd Motorized Rifle Regiment of the 20th Motorized Rifle Division, 8th Combined Arms Army, is engaged in combat operations on the Kurakhove direction.
    • The 40th Separate Marines Brigade of the Pacific Fleet operates near Prechystivka.
    • An "Alaniya" paramilitary unit from North Ossetia is fighting along the highway toward Orikhiv.

    Possible operation situation developments:

    • The enemy will soon reach the left bank of the Oskil River in the Hlushkivka-Kruhlyakivka sector and split the "Khortytsia" OSG bridgehead on the Oskil River into two parts: a smaller northern (Kupyansk) and a larger southern (Borova) section.
    • "Tavriya" OSG will not be able to hold the Zhelanne Pershe – Zhelanne Druhe line, as the enemy is already on the western bank of the Vovcha River and is actively advancing along it in a southern direction (Danylivka – Hirnyk). The situation could be salvaged if the "Tavriya" OSG forces reliably hold the Hirnyk – Kurakhivka line, though this remains uncertain.
    • We should expect enemy attempts to repeat the tactical maneuver they used at the beginning of the assault on Chasiv Yar: concentrating a large grouping of forces in a narrow sector, creating high tactical density in their formations, while deploying reserves dispersed along the entire front. Until then, the enemy will continue its frontal assault towards Pokrovsk from the southeast, advancing along the Avdiivka-Pokrovsk railway in a relatively narrow corridor (up to 5 km wide) between the Solonenka and Zhuravka rivers.
    • By the end of this year, the enemy will not only fail to occupy Donetsk Oblast within its administrative borders but also will be unable to seize the "fortress belt" of Kostyantynivka-Druzhkivka-Kramatorsk-Slovyansk. The upcoming battle for Pokrovsk will be the climax of the enemy's offensive operation in the Southwestern Theater of Operations in 2024.
    • Securing a breakthrough toward Kurakhove remains the primary objective for the enemy's "Yug (South)" Operational Grouping, particularly its 20th and 150th Motorized Rifle Divisions of the 8th Combined Arms Army. However, they lack the reserves necessary to achieve this.

    Russian operational losses from 24.02.22 to 22.09.24  

    Personnel - almost 642,420 (+1,500); 

    Tanks 8,768 (+22);

    Armored combat vehicles – 17,222 (+52); 

    Artillery systems – 18,333 (+63);

    Multiple rocket launchers (MLRS) – 1,195 (+2);

    Anti-aircraft warfare systems - 949 (0);

    Vehicles and fuel tanks – 25,023 (+57);

    Aircraft - 369 (0);

    Helicopters – 328 (0);

    UAV operational and tactical level – 15,628 (+67);

    Intercepted cruise missiles – 2,593 (0);

    Boats/ships – 29 (0).

    Humanitarian + general:

    • On the night of September 22, the enemy launched strikes with two Kh-59/69 guided missiles and released 80 Shahed-type attack UAVs over Ukraine. Air defense forces shot down 71 of the UAVs, and six more were lost due to electronic warfare interference.
    • On the night of September 22, Russia struck Kharkiv, injuring 21 people. Among them were an 8-year-old child and two 17-year-olds.
    • On the night of September 22, the enemy attacked Poltava Oblast with UAVs, causing damage to energy infrastructure in one of the districts. As a result of the attack, 56 households and 30 businesses were left without power.
    • On the night of September 22, Russian forces attacked Khmelnytskyi Oblast. Apartments, the roof of a multi-story building, and vehicles were damaged.
    • A fire broke out at a mine in Donetsk Oblast due to Russian shelling. At the time of the incident, 371 workers were in the mine, all of whom were evacuated to the surface. After inspecting the buildings, the bodies of two female workers were found. One more injured worker was taken to the hospital.
    • On September 22, at 11:50 AM, the aggressor state's army attacked Sloviansk. A strike hit a residential property. Rescue workers pulled a woman from the rubble. Two of her neighbors, aged 53 and 54, also sustained injuries and were taken to the hospital.
    • In the afternoon of September 22, Russian forces shelled Kramatorsk in Donetsk Oblast. Five people were injured, including a 16-year-old girl in serious condition. Four houses and two cars were damaged.
    • Since October 2022, the enemy has launched over a thousand strikes on civilian energy infrastructure in Ukraine, according to Deputy Minister of Energy Mykola Kolisnyk.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,980 ✭✭✭fly_agaric


    I probably should go and google or something but you often know these kinds of things…did Russia break a treaty building those ICBMs (with 10 MIRVs acc. to the newspaper blurb someone posted earlier)? […though on second thoughts, I believe Russia have left most of these arms treaties over last few years].

    I thought there was something about getting rid of MIRVs in nuclear arms limitation treaties the US signed with the Soviets e.g. the US got rid of all its Peacemakeredit: keeper missiles (10 warheads) and I think I have read their Minuteman missiles have 1 warhead in them even though they were built to hold 3.

    Post edited by fly_agaric on


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,411 ✭✭✭thomil


    As far as I know, MIRVs are only banned for land-based missiles. SLBMs carry MIRVs, in fact it was a pretty big deal when the US managed to get up to 14 MIRVs on the rather compact Trident D5. And yes, you’re right, Russia withdrew from the START-II treaty which contains the MIRV ban in 2002, in response to the US abandoning the ABM treaty.

    Good luck trying to figure me out. I haven't managed that myself yet!



  • Registered Users Posts: 3,900 ✭✭✭zv2


    FABs are hard to shoot down. No heat signature.

    “Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities.” — Voltaire



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  • Registered Users Posts: 3,900 ✭✭✭zv2


    Murza: “These guys keep meticulous records. When the end comes – and it will – the archives will open, we will find out about Trump and Marine Le Pen and your British guys too.”

    Putin regime will collapse without warning, says freed gulag dissident | Vladimir Putin | The Guardian

    “Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities.” — Voltaire



  • Registered Users Posts: 3,900 ✭✭✭zv2


    It did cross my mind that some RU air force people might be unhappy with their orders-

    “Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities.” — Voltaire



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,141 ✭✭✭RoyalCelt


    Yes but if Ukraine had enough patriot's the plane's wouldn't get within distance to drop them. They have to go quite high and near the frontline to strike Ukraine.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 279 ✭✭Jon Doe


    To Hell with that! And to Hell with 1991 borders! Gimme some 1919 borders!




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 279 ✭✭Jon Doe


    Just keep that tech and crates of gold flowing to NK… xD



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,656 ✭✭✭✭Timberrrrrrrr




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,347 ✭✭✭rogber




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,141 ✭✭✭thatsdaft




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,178 ✭✭✭✭josip


    I would be very surprised if that was the correct subtitling of what he was saying.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,141 ✭✭✭RoyalCelt


    Ukrainian military sources confirm that Russian units managed to enter the first outskirts of Vuhledar after months of intense fighting in this direction. The situation here deteriorated fast.

    "There was no major offensive as such, small enemy assault groups managed to penetrate the city, so we can conclude that at the moment there is a grey area. They enter there, cannot gain a foothold, so they either withdraw or die."

    Another Ukrainian source suggesting there was a breakthrough on the flanks which will be hard to stop.

    IMO it would be a great shame if Russia takes the city this year. If the Ukrainians can push them back this will remain a very costly front for Russia until next summer.



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