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  • #402
    Seve OB
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,076 ✭✭✭✭Seve OB


    I have an old sky dish with cables plugged straight into my TV

    A USB flash drive also plugged into TV for storage

    can record BBC no problemo



  • #403
    icdg
    Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 11,888 Mod ✭✭✭✭icdg


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122396445#Comment_122396445

    Nothing really we didn’t know there - maybe questions might have been asked of eir and/or the BBC as to why, after five years of apparent progress on this issue, suddenly things have gone backwards.



  • #404
    JDxtra
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,937 ✭✭✭JDxtra


    These "rights issues" are becoming a real pain in the neck here. Pure greed from broadcasters, rights holders and providers. Squeeze or punish the poor Irish consumer.

    Look at Switzerland for comparison - here, the exact same product that Eir TV uses is available as an "over the top" streaming service.

    All the main UK (yes, UK!) channels are also available in full HD with 7 day on demand service and an ability to "record" 1,000 or 2,000 shows with no restrictions. This includes all the ITV, BBC, Channel 4 and Channel 5 range of channels.

    No problem with rights issues there.



  • #405
    icdg
    Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 11,888 Mod ✭✭✭✭icdg


    There is a reason there is no problem about rights issues in Switzerland.

    Switzerland is a special case because local law provides cable tv operators a defence against copyright infringement in the case of services that can be picked up free to air on satellite in the country. Because of this, these services - and loads of FTA channels from around the continent - are being offered on cable in the country without the agreement or permission of the broadcasters concerned.

    BBC Studios only offer domestic BBC channels to countries that were able to pick the channels up off air via overspill in the analogue era - Ireland, Belgium, and the Netherlands. They can do nothing about the situation in Switzerland and have to play ball but it’s not their choice.



  • #406
    Akula
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 786 ✭✭✭Akula


    anybody know how to put the remote into pairing mode? Eir instructions don’t seem to be accurate.



  • #407
    Grey123
    Registered Users Posts: 106 ✭✭Grey123


    Why is Sky News not on EirTV?



  • #408
    icdg
    Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 11,888 Mod ✭✭✭✭icdg


    No Sky channels are apart from Sky Sports Racing which Sky doesn’t 100% own.

    It can be watched pretty easily on the Apple TV box by downloading the free Sky News app from the App Store.



  • #409
    Grey123
    Registered Users Posts: 106 ✭✭Grey123


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122402970#Comment_122402970

    Thanks. It just seems odd given sky news is generally free and ever on saorview which doesn’t have any other sky channels.



  • #410
    kooga
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,906 ✭✭✭kooga


    IMG_8526.jpeg

    bought this on Amazon de to control my Apple TV box as the supplied one was a headwreck and this is far superior and half the price compared to the eir store



  • #411
    icdg
    Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 11,888 Mod ✭✭✭✭icdg


    That’s the same one eir are supplying, isn’t it? Apart from the fact that it has a Magenta/Deutsche Telekom logo instead of an eir one?

    https://www.eir.ie/addtv/



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  • #412
    Seve OB
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,076 ✭✭✭✭Seve OB


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122412715#Comment_122412715

    looks like the one I recently got alright



  • #413
    kooga
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,906 ✭✭✭kooga


    it’s exactly the same as the eir one - so user friendly compared to the supplied remote



  • #414
    icdg
    Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 11,888 Mod ✭✭✭✭icdg


    I personally love the (old) Apple Remote - other than the fact that the front is made of glass and cracks rather easily and it’s so small that it’s too easy to lose. I’m not currently using eir TV though and I’m acutely aware I’m in a minority when it comes to liking it.

    The newer one is aluminium and most people seem to prefer it.



  • #415
    KildareP
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,514 ✭✭✭KildareP


    Recently got this installed, is anyone noticing momentary pixelation/freezing on a number of channels - RTE, Channel 4 mainly.

    It would seem to be on their end as if I watch a programme back through catch-up it pixelates in the exact same places as live.



  • #416
    JDxtra
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,937 ✭✭✭JDxtra


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122415074#Comment_122415074

    Yes! Just in the last few days.



  • #417
    JDxtra
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,937 ✭✭✭JDxtra


    What the point is of the Eurosport 4K channel on Eir? Even with Eurosport being the "Home of the Olympics", I can't see anything at all in the schedule.

    Despite this, over on Virgin Media - Eurosport 4K is available (to all subscribers) and is showing content.



  • #418
    kooga
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,906 ✭✭✭kooga


    agree - you’d think they give it free or have content on it . A lot of the uk cable companies giving Eurosport for free during the Olympics.


    I have it the 4K channel via satellite on the German platform HD+ fantastic picture and English audio

    IMG_8591.jpeg



  • #419
    lertsnim
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,814 ✭✭✭lertsnim


    And for some reason it's not on Sky either even though it was there a few weeks ago for the Wimbledon finals and before that for Roland Garros.



  • #420
    Seve OB
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,076 ✭✭✭✭Seve OB


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122444343#Comment_122444343

    how do you get the German Eurosport? I’ve a satellite tv with fta channels. Is it possible for me to pick up or do I need a second lnb pointed at another satellite than Astra?



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  • #421
    PixelCrafter
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 98 ✭✭PixelCrafter


    The rights issues are becoming a pain in the rear, and I'm finding so many of the shows I want to watch are now split across multiple streaming apps. The result is I just don't watch as much TV anymore. I find it an effort to find what I want to watch and I just get bored and don't watch it.

    I'm actually thinking I might cancel EirTV whenever the contract runs out and just go over to free-to-air satellite. I don't watch enough TV anymore to justify the subscriptions.

    It's all just being driven by ever more greedy rights holders.

    The Olympics isn't on Eurosport 4K because someone's trying to drive Discovery + subscriptions.



  • #422
    Grey123
    Registered Users Posts: 106 ✭✭Grey123


    I have had eir for the past two years and it’s fine for me, especially in the room where we have no aerial wire.

    However I understand that it’s linked to having eir internet. I’m coming to the end of a two year internet deal and would normally shop around but I’m wanting to stick with eir tv.

    Am I correct that I need eir internet for eir tv?


    What are people paying for eir internet, particularly those who have renewed?



  • #423
    babelfish1990
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 652 ✭✭✭babelfish1990


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122486328#Comment_122486328

    Phone eir on 1901 and ask for their loyalty dept. Do your research on competitor offerings, so that you can show them you know the cost of the alternatives. If you state that you are happy to commit to another 12 months, I find eir willing to renew discounts. I have renewed for several years and they always give me TV for €9.99pm, including free Amazon Prime Video, and mobile Sim-only unlimited 5G for €9.99pm. This brings the cost of the total bundle to €50.97, including TV & Mobile. This is very competitive, given that their basic broadband offering for new customers, without TV or mobile is €34.99pm. However, you need to make the call - preferably 30 days before the end of your contract - you can't renew these discounts online. They do have "cost-of-living" increases that kick in every April - but if you time your renewal right, you can minimize their impact - and most of the other providers have them too.



  • #424
    JDxtra
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,937 ✭✭✭JDxtra


    For anyone curious, the Eir TV app works abroad (EU) including casting to a TV. Some channels are blocked (BBC for example), but the RTE, Virgin, C4, Discovery range of channels are fine.

    For comparison, Virgin TV Anywhere appears to allow streaming of all channels but casting of only the Virgin channels (same as in Ireland). Now TV works fine also for streaming on a device and casting.



  • #425
    sumach
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22 ✭sumach


    Eir have just added Great tv, Great movies & Great romance channels. A welcome addition to the epg.



  • #426
    feargantae
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 627 ✭✭✭feargantae


    Slightly off topic but the amount of Apple TV boxes with eir remotes in CEX is crazy! They're selling them for €50 and eir do them for €60



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  • #427
    PixelCrafter
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 98 ✭✭PixelCrafter


    I've actually found the Eir TV platform pretty good. It's fast, responsive, and the Apple TV hardware is far better than VM or Sky, but there are a few issues.

    1. Lineup of channels isn't good enough. They really need the Sky content that Virgin has for it to be a genuine like-for-like cable replacement. Subscribing to NOW TV isn't really a decent replacement either, that app is a hot mess. Trying to find anything is really annoying, especially just to watch live TV.
    2. The lack of a numeric keypad is somewhat annoying. Yes, you can surf through the channels, but it does seem a bit like Apple never really saw this as being a direct replacement for a cable tv box. I wonder though if they could just make a bluetooth remote with numeric keypad, and have an app that supports it. I would assume it's the same app Free, Salt and others are using with AppleTV.
    3. Once in a while the Eir TV app seems to just randomly close. I don't know if it's due to lack of remote control activity, or if it's just a glitch, but it does seem to happen every once in a while - it's not so frequent that it's a major issue, but nonetheless it happens more than I've experienced with any other AppleTV app.
    4. They should properly integrate the app into AppleTV. Plenty of others are like Arte, Disney+ etc. That being said, so should RTE, TG4, VMTV and the other channels with players. When it's integrated properly it's EXTREMELY slick. You get actual previews of those apps' content in the Apple TV+ app.



  • #428
    JDxtra
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,937 ✭✭✭JDxtra


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122642207#Comment_122642207

    Agree 100% on point number 1. They need to work on both their channel line up, and I think on the broadcast quality of the existing channels on there.

    For example, they could probably easily add More4HD and E4HD. Drop EuroSport 4K - it literally shows nothing.

    The whole range of Discovery owned channels is very sub-standard, it's probably only 720p at a low bit rate. The channels really suffer during fast motion.

    Any potential customer can quickly Google channel line ups and see a huge difference between Eir and Sky Stream / Virgin Stream.



  • #429
    PixelCrafter
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 98 ✭✭PixelCrafter


    Yeah, I really don't know what the point of Eurosport UHD is if it's just a holding page all day. I've never seen anything on that that channel ever.

    One other thing I think they could do if they want to push out their market a bit is add just a small selection of some continental TV. There's a big audience for it and I'm sure there is probably plenty available in at least HD if not UHD at no or very little cost to carry. It was something the predecessors of Virgin used to do a much better job of.

    Sky and Virgin are very 'British view of the world' type line ups.

    In general they should be just pushing a comprehensive TV package that knocks it out of the park a bit more than they do. There's no point in it being a really nice piece of kit and then just having a rather lack lustre line up on their own app.

    It has huge potential to really compete with Virgin Media, but it's not trying hard enough with the lineup.

    If you compare it with what Free in France offer on the same platform…

    https://www.free.fr/freebox/apple-tv-4K/

    It's carrying 580 channels!!



  • #430
    decor58
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 879 ✭✭✭decor58


    In France last month the house used Orange, hundreds of channels 30+ were free, the rest appeared to be a variety of subscriptions,some were IPTVlinks. There were a variety of news channels BBC, CNN, France 24, and a variety of languages.

    Post edited by decor58 on


  • #431
    icdg
    Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 11,888 Mod ✭✭✭✭icdg


    There is no market for continental TV here. The ones that want it already have satellite dishes pointed in that direction. Most people don’t have a good enough command of continental languages to follow what’s on. It’s not that it’s a “British view of the world”. Sky and VM are both American owned as are most of the channels on Sky once you go past the PSBs (WB Discovery and Paramount supply most of the ones not actually owned by Sky). It’s that English is the language most people speak as their first language here.

    How well does TV5Monde rate, outside of a couple of rugby matches? That’s your market research right there. I know there’ll be arguments it’s off down at 809 and nobody remembers it’s there but if it rated better VM would put on more continental channels. (Don’t expect Sky to, I’m afraid).



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  • #432
    PixelCrafter
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 98 ✭✭PixelCrafter


    There’s no market based on what exactly? A significant % of the population is now made up of people who speak other languages, many live in apartments and have no access to satellite dishes.

    eir sells broadband, tv, mobile and voice services and owns a flexible IPTV platform with tons of capacity and barely a handful of channels.

    Sky is only relatively recently American owned but it’s a British service and evolved entirely in the UK to British tastes. VM removed continental channels from the old cable systems, and effectively run a UK clone service, with fewer channels.

    If the content is available for free, as many of the public service channels are, they might as well include them.

    Also satellite tv could well be largely gone before the end of the decade. A lot of providers don’t plan on renewing transponder contracts due to the shift to iptv.



  • #433
    HMS Erebus
    Registered Users Posts: 23 ✭HMS Erebus


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122643346#Comment_122643346
    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122643667#Comment_122643667

    Agree 100% and anyway TV5Monde isn't an exemplar for European TV. The EU should mandate that all national broadcasters main FTV channels are available in each EU country, it's a fantastic opportunity for kids learning the languages in school and it's a lot of the reason that TG4 exists, I regularly watch ZDF, TF1 and NPO, you'd be amazed how much it can help a language seep into the consciousness.

    You'd get way more from it than some of the stuff at the periphery of EPG.



  • #434
    PixelCrafter
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 98 ✭✭PixelCrafter


    Yeah, I've an Astra 19.2°E dish, and it's still a phenomenal opportunity and window on some continental languages.



  • #435
    drunkmonkey
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,356 ✭✭✭✭drunkmonkey


    Anyone know how to pair the Eir remote to the apple tv, have a few remotes and don't know what's what so just want to re-pair them.



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