Arsenal Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours 2024/25

Could we argue though that City were poor attacking because we were so good defensively?

They really missed DeBruyne today though,and his ability to find the tiniest space.

Sure, look, it's one of those that's six of one and half a dozen of the other.

I'm very disappointed with the red card. Arsenal were beginning to boss the game and I felt good about the second half, then - bang -everything changes.

I totally get people's point about consistency, but, I still feel more frustrated at Trossard. You can not give the ref a chance to dish out a second yellow like that. And it's not as if they aren't aware - Rice was two games ago! As soon as he booted the ball I knew what was coming.

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The team need a good rest after that game. They gave it all today and I couldn't praise their commitment enough. Hope they get a day off to recover after 3 very tough away games in a week.

Of course it won't.

They'll take one look at his jersey and it'll be forgotten about. The other way around and we'd be looking at a ban

It was stupid by Trossard, but it’s also completely unfair. Both things can be true. We keep on moving.

It's so blatantly obvious now it's actually embarrassing and shameful. We need an independent body to work alongside the FA.

Sure it was Oliver that gave Martinelli the two yellows in one play. His bias against Arsenal needs to be investigated. Wonder have Arsenal ever requested he doesn't ref our games

What happens now with Calafiori?

Is he going to supplant White?

Played further forward?

He had some game yesterday.

I’ll admit, it’s making me less escorted to watch Arsenal and football each week.

Refs and city’s cheating is ruining the game.

Haaland is not a very classy guy. Some auld guff out of him.

City more than a little disgruntled not getting everything their own way despite having pretty much everything in their favour? To me its a sign they're genuinely concerned at how close Arsenal are to them now, I think they're just a little rattled.

Either way, given we were away in Italy on Thursday, and played 55 minutes with 10 men that's a fantastic point, gutted it wasn't the full 3 but I'll take it. Genuinely believe had it stayed 11 v 11 we'd have won that game

When I saw the fixture list and our first 3 away games were Villa, Spurs & City I feared we may have a slow start, but to take 7 points from those 3 games is a fantastic return. Refs not doing us any favours but its clear we're being punished for the perceived time wasting now we're under that particular spotlight so its up to the team to be cleverer in how we approach that to avoid any more repeats of the Rice & Trossard red cards. Yes others do it too, but we're clearly being punished more now so have to be smart.

I'd lobe to see a good football writer do an expose or a few good interviews on corruption by referees. He'd have plenty of material to get him started. Maybe an interview with Oliver about why he didn't send Covacic off at the Emirates because it might '' ruin the game'' and why he didn't think sending Trossard off would ruin it. A few questions about his refereeing trips to Abu Dhabi and about why consistency is important in refereeing games. Maybe also interview Mike Dean about inconsistency too. I'd love to watch the responses.

To be fair to Arsenal, at 11 v 11 they were the better team, the second half was a total anomaly that you had a team that confident in its ability to defend a lead when down to 10 men against 'the greatest team the world has ever seen'

I genuinely think had it stayed 11 v 11 Arsenal would have scored at least 1 more & won the game.

I think - aside from the lateness of the equaliser - that's what galls me the most: I thought Arsenal were putting it up to them in a way that hadn't happened before. There was no feeling that Arsenal felt inferior to them, I was looking forward to the second half. City were shook, you could feel it. You sensed a seismic result was absolutely on.

And then that bloody red card. Was Oliver quick to dish it out, yes, he was. However I still think Trossard has to - has to! - be smarter there. You are already on a yellow: be careful.

But it did change everything. The second half was one of the most bizarre halves of football I can ever remember watching. The only thing I can compare it to is the second leg of the CL semi between Inter & Barca in 2010, after Inter had a man sent off and retreated into an extremely rigid defensive formation and let Barca have the ball. However, I can't recall Inter being quite so determined to hold the line.

After a while it did stop becoming bizarre and started becoming heroic, but am I the only one that feels a bit conflicted by it? It was so backs to the wall. Don't get me wrong, I understand why they did it, but I've never seen parking the bus executed like that.

Yeah, Ornstein has confirmed

A brave effort but Trossard jumped into the back of the city player and a clear foul and then kicked the ball away, his first Foul was a stupid no need one and put himself in bad position walking a tightrope with a city referee and gave him the opportunity to send off a player. Roy Keane was right the city lacked attacking ideas and once our defence was set up so well they kept playing sideways with no big threat. The good thing out of the game the corner threat will be a big factor going forward this season compared to last year not getting over the first man.

We really seem to get other fans' backs up these days, regardless of results. Imagine what it'll be like if we win anything...

"No one likes us, we don't care."

I like my teams that way!!

I’m absolutely loving the saltiness from the City players. Haaland in particular- between his embarrassing run in with MLS and then his handbags with Gabby Jesus and Arteta at the final whistle, complete and utter head loss and I love to see it.

So much better than the condescending pats on the head we used to get from Pep. They are rattled.