It's A Door, Jim; But ...

Two days later …..

@Deregos. Says: " Welding? "

Err. Yeah. I Do know a bloke who welds. My neighbour. And, probably every other man, but me, in all of Leitrim! I almost did. Realised I'm too old to bother, now.

But, naah. This is an indoor, more or less bit of furniture, see? These particular hinges ~ jap blacked ~ are to set it off a treat.

But, ye mention itself raises / returns us to the question; '*Could* screws hold?' 🤔 Dunno. What ye reckon? Screws, in place of spots?

Which Now gets me to consider jap blacked through bolts???

See, it's all about the stresses on that tin, isn't it? How would your spots be any less likely to do damage than my bolts? Granted, my bolts need holes. Your spots basically become as one with the tin. Dunno.

My bolts get Two holes. And some whack off big washers ….?

@Deregos. said: 'Photo's?'

THIS is what we're dealing with. Not the best of shots. But, it's an original and not taken for This purpose. It shows the thinness of tin though. Along the top edges of this, horizontal, sheet. Yeah? That's the rough 'Door Frame', laid on its side.

Right background is an 'actual' (Untouched) sheet, showing us the rolled edges, which I've cut off, on the 'door frame'. See the foam, sandwiched in there, too.

That's 2 x 3, set into the edge of the door frame. I've hollowed the foam and slotted that in. Screw the hinge butts through the trim, I'm adding, into that.

The whole then is a 'walk in' sized, upright, rectangular box. About six by three foot. Door fits into the front / entrance. Door itself measures 63" x 27 1/2". That's the stresser.

I could probably rustle up an approximation of the Weight? That may be getting a little involved though, going to Those lengths.

The gate hinges are a given. It's like furniture. I like the style as it shall be. So, there's no escaping that basic premise.

Their butts will screw to the wood lined, right hand side of the box. The long arms will extend, 14" across the door. Hold that fact in mind.

I'm not plying the outside, because I don't want to look at ply. I could ply the inside. I'd hate to. But, physically? I probably could.

Would That not simply transfer the stress, 'doubled' to the tin at the Front?

Ah. But, we have those Hinge straps, at the front, spreading and sharing that load, between a run of five screws / rivets / bolts. Alright, screws was figuratively speaking. 'Would the rivets hold it?' is really what I came here with.

Bolts? I was thinking, maybe, Galvy Strapping ~ sort of representing a sort of strip(s) of ye ply there. On the inside from those hinge straps? With me?

That's ~ pretty much ~ what I was trying to get at 👍️ Very much like that. Only, I'd only envisaged the 'cross members' (Call 'em what ye will) going as far across as the hinges.

Obviously, to continue the cm's, to any meaningful purpose, would entail further bolts. So, we're looking at hinges, with at least one extra bolt, to their left? That's doable. I can live with a row of black dots down the door.

I have it in my head that ~ the bolted closures? Your welding would've trapped those metals together. Period. My bolts? They'll Always be in direct (90 degree?) opposition with that tin sheet. That's a given we're trying to figure if the Door can live with.

Thought of a Possible, constant desire for those bolt shafts to be pushing themselves through that tin ~ or the tin against Them, suicidally ~ bothers me. Question is turns to whether cross members (Your wood. My galvy strapping. What ever) can resolve the problem?

Dear god. Only I could try to build a box and end up invoking the spirit of Isambard Kingdom Brunel 😬

I could have just got a proper box made, Rows. But, here we are.

I'll be seeing the guy, thursday, works where they make this stuff. I'm gonna run it past him. I don't expect him to know, off the top of his head. But, I'm sure he can find answers, from within, as it were.

It wasn't mean't to become such an issue. Yet, not finding a way through This bit has, of course, held up further work on the whole. Have to sort it, some time.

I'll certainly let ye know, here, what I finally go with. Whether or not anyone yet pops up here with some insight.

Back burner, for a week or so now. I'll ask him. He'll ask them. But, I won't see him for another week, to ask him what he said 😂