Hezbollah pager explosions

Israel has settlements in Lebanon?

Not currently. But people are using defense as an excuse for Israels behaviour in the area generally. It's disingenuous to say that Israel is defending its borders against Hamas, Palestine, Hezbollah, Lebanon, Iran, or anyone else in the area when it has been occupying the land of other people for decades and is expanding.

Seems like the colonialist Israeli state is preparing for ground invasion of Lebanon, according to guardian reporting.

And you cant admit that there is an actual reason why the IDF have to attack Hamas and Hezbollah

I appreciate your honesty in this regard.

We agree at least that Israel does have the right to protect its borders and citizens.

We agree that Iran should stop funding and arming these terrorist organisations whose guns are aimed at Israel.

Israel is pushed into a corner here.
If they do nothing and let Hamas and Hezbollah away with attacking them, and killing their people, then the people will vote out the politicians and vote in people like Bibi to act accordingly.

If and when they do act, and they can be quite hard in their actions, then the eyes of the world are quickly on them, and they are derided from pillar to post.

I made the point a few times that Israel being nicer to Hamas and Hezbollah is not going to change a thing.

If Israel stopped all its military campaigns today, what would change in the medium turn?

Nothing.

Hamas would grow again, Hezbelloah are still around, and Iran funds and back both, and they will attack, lob rockets and missiles into Israel, until Israel grows tired of it and attacks them again.

Rinse Repeat.

Take Iran off the table, then you might have a chance of peace. Then you might be able to find some ground for a future Palestinian state. But you will never get that opportunity if Iran is funnelling arms to proxies on Israel's borders.

The world should be looking at the root cause of this, and look at Iran first and foremost.

Whether they are attacked or not.

Ah, so there are times they invade when not attack, for the craic like.

Care to give us times when this happened?

The Six Days War started by the Israeli assassination of Egyptian military leaders and a pre emptive attack by Israel.

They hit forces that were lining up to invade.

You claim Israel never started a war? This is not true.

Today the IDF took out more senior Hez figures and especially targeted intelligence assets, something they previously didn't and consider an escalation.. They also stated that a ground offensive is now on the cards.

They once again stated that Hezbollah retreating behind litani river, as agreed previously will be the game changer.

The Hezbollah and Iranian proxies response was no peace. Just more missiles.

Hezbollah Keep driving past the office ramps.

Israel needs to take the gloves off and end them and if need be cripple Iran as well. Iran without any powerplants will give the Mullahs a lot to consider at home

Thanks, perhaps you would like to teach my grandmother to suck eggs? 🙄

Bombay Street was burned in August. The IRA that ran away were the pre split “Official IRA”.
The provisionals were formed in December, which is exactly my point. Cahill was one of the founders of the provisionals.

You really are in no position to pretend to be giving condescending history lectures.

If Lebanese people affected by this conflict arrive in Ireland seeeking refugee as they most likely will would you be happy to accept them?

Just another reason that Israel have to destroy Hamas and also straighten out Tehran and America should help in that if need be.

If Iran had been severely chastised at some stage in the last decade for its actions. Then I suspect that Oct 7th would never have happened. Russia would have looked at what happened to Iran and decided not to invade Ukraine.

What fun it will be for Europe if the Houthis have advanced anti ship missiles.

While few of the pro Palestinian or pro Hezbollah people will condemn Russia for anything, they'll change their tune when it hits their pocket and daily lives.

"US intelligence officials have briefed Donald Trump about a suspected Iranian plot to kill him, his campaign has said"

the iranians will be hoping trump doesn't get back into power so as he is definitely not the forgiving kind

looks like israel have no choice but to enter lebanon now despite pager effort last week given that thousands of its citizens have been forced from their homes by the hezbollah terrorists

We were talking about the troubles, and your claim was that people in Northern Ireland turned to the "men with guns" for protection. Now you're trying to bring in a completely different point, about 1916.

Are you saying the Provisional IRA were democratically elected to fix the civil rights issues? Or even that they effectively saved a single nationalist civilian from being attacked by loyalists or by the army/RUC/UDR?

Because if you did actually know anything about Northern Ireland history (and this all started because you tried to give another poster a lesson about knowing "our history" remember - so don't complain when you get the same treatment back because you've been spouting rubbish about Northern Ireland history) you'd know the IRA did not save a single civilian, and nor did they particularly want to. Their aims were different.

And THAT'S what I mean by saying they aren't democratic. I don't give a sh1te about their internal organisation - they can decide every military action by a secret vote if they want, they're still not democratic, because they decide what they will do, not the people.

LOL You were lecturing the other poster about Northern Ireland history. You made a false claim about northern nationalists turning to the men with guns for protection. Don't try to wriggle out of that!

(I've never claimed to be an expert in Irish history - it's just that I'm old enough to remember the start of the troubles, just about. I grew up there. So of course I'm interested in that. Still not an expert - but clearly I know more about the troubles than you! You know the fantasy version. You still haven't managed to come up with a single civilian life saved by PIRA actions I take it?)

Many think that if Hamas did that Bibi would most certainly bomb them even more as he'd have no fear of killing Israelis and not fear the backlash from the relatives.

I'd say what's concerning the IDF more is the number of pagers that also exploded in various parts of Israel last week!

not yet, but to have such settlements in southern lebanon is their plan.

Do you know what, you say it with such conviction that I am starting to think that you actually believe all that nonsense yourself.

Going on about "norman plantation", which directly irrelevant to the thread subject actually gives an insight into your ability to fashion a nonsense misunderstanding into an argument which you repeat with gusto. a

Perhaps you should do some research into your own family history. If you find any ancestor with a "Norman" name, why not then take that as a right to go over a murder a few French families and seize their land and villas. Get yourself a nice vineyard for retirement. Maybe you'll find an viking name as well. You can repeat the trick to get some Norwegian property for holidays.

Did you know that, since October 7th, and before the recent Israeli escalation towards the population of Lebanon, the ratio of rocket attacks by Israel:Hezbollah was about 5:1. The ratio of deaths (again before the recent escalations) due to those attacks was about 30:1.

For every rocket attack against Israel, 5 were made against Lebanon. For every Israeli killed in such an attack, about 30 Lebanese died. And again, this does not include the recent escalation.

Verified facts. But you wouldn't think it due to the adeptness of the zionists for propaganda, hasbara, and profiting off the perpetual victim card.