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Aston Villa Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours/Champions League Thread 2024/25

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  • #15052
    CSF
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    That looks about right



  • #15053
    Bounty Hunter
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    Wasn't too far off but actually a few more youngsters got game time than I expected which is nice considering they allowed people like Tielemans, Morgan & Digne (along with the expected CBs & watkins etc) to get a full rest.

    Good to see Buendia get a goal and Duran to keep his run of scoring going too.



  • #15054
    Panrich
    Registered Users Posts: 3,850 ✭✭✭Panrich


    Some nice touches shown by the likes of Borland and Broggio when they came on. Kadan Young did well as did Nedelkjovic. Swinkels looked physically ready but misjudged a few things. Bogarde mixed some very good moments with a few very bad ones. It does though show up our depth a little bit if we had a spate of injuries.



  • #15055
    basillarkin
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    Palace in 4th round at home



  • #15056
    OneColdHand
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122654779#Comment_122654779

    Happy enough with that. Mainly the 'at home' bit.



  • #15057
    CSF
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122654811#Comment_122654811

    Being if we honest, if we look at the fixture list up until Christmas, it will unquestionably be a full 2nd 11 again.



  • #15058
    Panrich
    Registered Users Posts: 3,850 ✭✭✭Panrich


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122655017#Comment_122655017

    It will be a great chance to get plenty of minutes into Kamara and Mings if they are not getting many chances in the other games.



  • #15059
    OneColdHand
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122655017#Comment_122655017

    Yep. And I'm fine with that. We play the second string. If we get through, great. If we dont, thats ok. We have a strong squad, but we cant realistically compete for 4 trophies.



  • #15060
    CSF
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122656894#Comment_122656894

    I think when you look at the team from Tuesday, it’s not as strong as you would want. Hopefully Mings, Buendia and Kamara can all find their old level at some stage this season and it will feel a lot stronger.



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  • #15061
    OneColdHand
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    No surprises in the lineup. Bailey in for McGinn. Hoping for a more solid game from Carlos.



  • #15062
    Bounty Hunter
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    Every game seems important theses days. Win today and we end the weekend joint top, 4pts ahead of 5th aafter only 6 games. We are becoming a team who win the games (like today) that you expect them to. Sounds simple but it's those consistant teams who get European football year in year out.

    Hoping for a big game from Bailey today. He hasn't had the same kind of standout performances he did last term yet and obviously has the ability to stretch a side and offer us an attacking outlet on both flanks (I felt like almost everything was going down the left with McGinn ont the right at times).



  • #15063
    Bounty Hunter
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    ahh lads we don't have to come from behind to win a game…



  • #15064
    OneColdHand
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    Ffs. Terrible stuff. At least we got it out of the way early. Plenty of time to come back



  • #15065
    basillarkin
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    poor from onano, worse from konsa and martinez terrible, these lads are going to sit in now and be hard break down



  • #15066
    Patser
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,149 ✭✭✭Patser


    Sweet jesus. Free aginst Onana for nothing, leads to soft goal and then Watkins nearly gets jersey taken off him but no peno???



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  • #15067
    Bounty Hunter
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    At least we were not waiting too long to draw level this time. Lovely goal from Rodgers.



  • #15068
    Patser
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    1 - 1.

    We're not the only yones that can't defend



  • #15069
    Patser
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    Carlos is really not at the races today.

    Why not try Ned at RB, and move Konsa back into centre



  • #15070
    Bounty Hunter
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    Well taken Watkins but that was surprisingly easy



  • #15071
    Patser
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    Ooooh niceby Ollie!

    Great cross by Bailey, easy enough header, perfectly controlled by Ollie



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  • #15072
    OneColdHand
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    Delicious by Bailey!



  • #15073
    basillarkin
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    Great save martinez



  • #15074
    Bounty Hunter
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    Lucky not to be level. Martinez did well again (think he is p!ssed at himself for not getting a clean sheet once more this week).



  • #15075
    Patser
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122665621#Comment_122665621

    2nd one is even better - world cup style!!!



  • #15076
    Patser
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    Just trying to figure things out.

    I feel Portman Road is such a small, tight pitch, and space is at such a premium that pacey players like Bailey and Ramsey aren't able to do much, as they are closed down or running into traffic so quickly. Same with Onana, he looks more like a ground covering defensive mid, designed to close down runners through the middle.

    Instead on this pitch it's all about strength, close control, battling qualities. Especially with ref letting things go. Ollie is having a lot of joy battling away, and Rogers at times. Tielemans also getting time and space to try unlock them. This is the sort of game that prime Buendia would relish, nipping in and around tight spaces. And of course Duran, oh you want to crowd the box and have an organised defence allow me to shoot from 30 yards or run helter skelter straight through you!



  • #15077
    Bounty Hunter
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    This is the most involved in things I've seen Watkins this season. Even when he scored in recent games he has not felt as on it as in this game. Would not be surprised to see Barkley on for Onana again later in this match for the reasons Patser outlined above.



  • #15078
    Patser
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,149 ✭✭✭Patser


    Yeah, but Barkley and Tielemans, play a near identical role - they sit deep and try to pick out passes. I could just picture the 2 of them sitting side by side passing it 40 times between each other before just punting it into box. 1 of them doing that is enough.

    Buendia though would offer the pass into feet at edge of box, and ability to turn on the spot and thread it through



  • #15079
    Patser
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    Get Bailey off….. and Ramsey. Get Duran and Buendia on.

    We're controlling midfield but ball is not going forward, and those 2 are offering little in terms of width or holding onto the ball



  • #15080
    Bounty Hunter
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    Yeah time for the power of the bench now.



  • #15081
    Patser
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    And there, there is prime example.

    Rogers gets ball, close control takes him by a player, draws 4 others to him but allows Konsa and Tielemans time to get forward, we keep the ball, start passing it side to side to stretch them. Ball comes to Bailey, falls over it and off they go.

    And as I rant Philogene warming up for Bailey

    Edit - and Duran in for Rogers - much more straightforward, in his form Duran has to be played at some time



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  • #15082
    Bounty Hunter
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    I don't want tio pile on him but I have to blame Carlos there. He will have the excuse that Konsa is out of position but that was poor defending



  • #15083
    Patser
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    Crap, crap, crap….

    Konsa commited forward, Carlos doesn't cover, then makes disasterous late offside movement and is too slow getting back…

    2-2



  • #15084
    CSF
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,657 ✭✭✭✭CSF


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122665778#Comment_122665778

    We should be piling on him. He is a bum.



  • #15085
    basillarkin
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,461 ✭✭✭basillarkin


    Diego Carlos is such a poor footballer, konsa not a RB, this issue wasn't addressed and that's on emery, Ramsey offering little aswell.



  • #15086
    OneColdHand
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    That is EXACTLY why I hate Konsa at RB. He's poor going forward and loses the ball. Then is out of position with out worst defender left to cover.



  • #15087
    Bounty Hunter
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    Villa had dropped off, there is still a good bit of time and maybe now that we aare chasing the 3pts the lads will step up again… Duran time maybe?



  • #15088
    Patser
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    Torres showing Carlos how to defend, but still we're barely hanging on and offering little up front



  • #15089
    Patser
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    I'm still holding out for the Duran 92nd minute overhead winner



  • #15090
    basillarkin
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    Some amount of time wasted there



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  • #15091
    fullstop
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    Carlos rinsed again for that equaliser, nearly fell on his arse. I can’t understand how he is starting games.



  • #15092
    CSF
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    Atwell a joke. Diego Carlos an even bigger one.



  • #15093
    Bounty Hunter
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    Poor second half. It shows when you are subbing Ollie off after Ipswich have pulled level. First half he was doing great and very involved, second half nothing.

    Carlos deservedly being blamed again. We are still in the top 5 and fair play to Ipswich but it feels like 2 pts dropped



  • #15094
    Patser
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    In a lot of ways, lucky to even get that 1 point. So many under par performances. Ollie anonymous 2nd half, Ramsey for nearly all the match, subs made little difference in the end (Barkley wasn't bad), even Emery's decisions were poor.

    Maybe it is a case of 1 eye on Bayern



  • #15095
    CSF
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,657 ✭✭✭✭CSF


    Villa have done most things well in the transfer market, so it’s hard to be overly critical, but 18 on Philogene and subsequently being unable to fill that RB/RCB hole because of lack of funds seems a strange one.


    He still feels a few years off ready for this level.



  • #15096
    Bounty Hunter
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    Yeah I am not quite seeing it with Philogene. I know we had the first option and they didn't want to miss out perhaps but he has not impressed and I only want to see him coming on if it is when we are comfortably ahead as I am not expecting him to make a difference.

    Everyone can see we need a RB / someone to allow Konsa to get back to CB thoough.

    Can't say today's performance fills me with confidence for Bayern even though I've been pretty optimistic after every game before today but perhaps Villa will function better in the underdog role.



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  • #15097
    CSF
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122665935#Comment_122665935

    I think criticism of him today if he was still an academy product would be harsh. But 18 million has just been spent on him in a window where funds ran out with holes to be filled, so it’s very disappointing that he looks so out of place when he plays.



  • #15098
    OneColdHand
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    Bruno sent off for United. Wont be playing us next week!



  • #15099
    CSF
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122666152#Comment_122666152

    He is their only player I fear too, but we all are old enough to know how this game always ends



  • #15100
    Bounty Hunter
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    Happy they are missing him but would prefer if they didn't take this pasting before playing us. They will have to have a response against Villa now or Ten Hag should be under ridiculous pressure or gone.



  • #15101
    basillarkin
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    Yon a positive note I think buendia did well when he came on, he has a nice final ball,.more effective in the middle for me but Rodgers has that for now, won't be as efficient on the right



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