Manchester United Thread 2024/25 - Teamtalk/Transfers/Gossip Mod Note in OP 26.09.24

I meant by the weekend.

Where's the positivity train gone?

I think a sharp dose of reality derailed it.

Who'd have thought not really changing anything other than the people in the positions wouldn't suddenly make the formation work?

Spurs are going to create a lot of chances against United.

That's an awful list of other options to be honest.

Also the positivity,negativity crap is the most childish **** I've read in a long time **** hell.

If you are negative all the time you will be called negative,.if you are positive all the time you wil be called deluded.

If people want to enjoy a win they should that's the reason we watch sport, if people want to look at the bigger picture and are unable to enjoy anything until the manger is sacked that also fine.

But what's going on today is incredibly childish.

When you are told it's a new dawn every few months for 11 years and the same thing keeps happening, worse every time, at what point do you realise that there is no dawn coming.

This is the same as it was under LVG. Only with even worse results and less defensive stability. Garnacho is the Januzaj. Bruno is the Rooney. McTominay was the Fellaini but he's gone. Many other parallels can be drawn but it has now been allowed to go on longer than under LVG.

That was the last time I was this negative about a manager. With José and with Ole you could at least see some semblance of a plan and improvement in some players. This guy is now hiding behind young players just like LVG did. Will pluck a few more out of the U23s after a few injuries and make further excuses.

Absolutely no one said it was a new dawn though people were happy with two good wins one against shite opposition but still something we hadn't done. People can be happy with a wins or wins and hope it continues though.

Before I get into the rest of your post I was simply replying about all the posters who were baiting about positivity it was childish simple as and a **** read tbh post an opinion on the game like you do at least it's something to talk about.

I will say garnacho being referred to as januzi is crazy he is our top goal scorer this season from way less minutes then anyone, strikes a ball lovely, his build up is decent and he actually makes good runs and gets chances and he is still really young. You posted that video after the Brighton game of rashford making "good" runs but Garnacho actually does it's why he is always getting chances from the position Rashford has struggled from the same position.

I don't care if you are negativity about the manager or anyone is I've plenty of negativity for him myself, just the nonsense that was posted. Adds nothing to the thread that's all.

I don't think the issue is that there aren't any better than ETH. It's that they are only a wee bit better.

Lets say ETH is a 5/10 manager. If there are no 9/10 or 10/10 managers available, why bother changing ETH for someone who's maybe a 7/10?

It would be an improvement, yes. But not good enough.

That's why I think the most likely option is ETH sacked before Christmas, RVN in til the end of the season. He's unlikely to be worse, and would be a short term deal rather than appointing another 6 or 7/10 manager who'll just continue the cycle.

I predicted a similar season as last season or well maybe not 8th but if anyone thought we would finish top 4 they need their head checked.

Or the days of Welbeck lol

There was a new footballing structure under Woodward every year or 2nd year. It's what happens on the pitch that matters. If not for Klopp Liverpool would have remained a team that was fighting for the Europa League places most likely, even if they'd signed Salah. United were happy to double down on what's not working for this season and the cycle will just start again.

All the talk about it taking 3-5 years to fix is all well and good if you think there are going to be good players still at the club then and a manager to get the best out of them. No other top team has to put up with these waits to be successful while spending nearly the most money.

You don't see the parallels between Garnacho and Januzaj? Both brought through the youths as a great new hope, made a decent initial impact, badly coached so that all of their flaws are over indulged and not reach their potential. I may yet obviously be proven wrong on this for Garnacho and I do like his work ethic especially and a new manager could make all the difference.

One isnt meant to take the title as a literal guide, it's just the catchy title,.the book isn't just about Liverpool they go into brentford and Brighton, its essentially how data has been used in football.

And they talk about the luck involved in the Counthino deal. But that money was used well due to the systems in place at the club.

It wasn't one thing that got them to where it was it was the whole club pulling in the one direction and the manger was in fact the final piece of the jigsaw not the first.

Athletic tweet:

Manchester United chief executive Omar Berrada has told staff that the aim is to win the Premier League title in 2028, for the 150th anniversary of the club being formed.

Berrada, who officially joined from rivals Manchester City in June, addressed employees during a meeting at Old Trafford last Wednesday and mapped out the ambitions shared by Sir Jim Ratcliffe and the football hierarchy.

Berrada informed staff of “Project 150” — so called because it coincides with the major milestone of United’s existence. The club was founded, as Newton Heath, in 1878, before changing its name to Manchester United in 1902.

https://x.com/TheAthleticFC/status/1839344748517040410

Swear to god these comments always back fire on us.

I like that he is framing the target in terms of winning the PL, rather than finishing top 4.

In 4 years time Yoro is either a bust or eyeing up his Madrid move fantastic.