Manchester United Thread 2024/25 - Teamtalk/Transfers/Gossip Mod Note in OP 26.09.24

even if you think the season is gonna be a write off - why wouldn't you get a new manager in and give them the season to build rather than let the current manager continue to flounder and THEN ask a new guy to fix it.

betweeen last summer and the coming summer we were/are likely to lose Varane, Lindelof, Maguire, Evans. Leaving us with, from the base, Martinez.

Are you actually arguing that if the club is doing a 4/5 year plan they shouldn't be thinking year 2/3/4 in that plan?
Are you arguing that Yoro is not a good signing in that 'more than just this season' plan?

If they are building towards competing in 3 years, winning in 4/5 then why not consider you will need to sign 2 or 3 CBs over the next two seasons so if one you REALLY want is getting now, then get him?

You have heard of rotation? In 99 we had 4 class forwards, it's what the best clubs do, just look at City.

I was calling for ETH to be sacked after last season irrespective of winning the FA cup but other posters were asking for him to be kept on. To not finish top 4 with the money that has been spend and the talent at his disposal this season would be criminal.

So we should only have two quality CBs. Two first choice CBs and then whatever gomers we dredge up?
Are you CERTAIN of Martinez long term? Do you think he has some injury potential? Do you think his performances have been quality this season? Do you think there is no cause for concern over him being long term first choice? Are you CERTAIN of MDL? No concerns over him?

No, i am not changing my tune on the RW, ST, CM. We got a CM (i'd have liked another). We got a ST (Zirkzee). I'd have liked a RW. I would have liked some more signings, I personally would have only bought one cb. But I don't see that as good enough justification to call the Yoro signing crazy when (1) we will need to sign more than 1 CB over last summer and next (possibly 3 in total). I think we are going to need to sign another CB next summer. If not two. (Martinez, MDL, Yoro, 4th choice, 5th choice)

Would I have done differently in the summer? Yep. Would I have signed different players or profiles? Yes. Does that mean I should criticise all the signigns we did make?

I also don't believe not signing Yoro would have resulted in us signing a 2nd striker. I don't think there was a RW the club like after Olise went. I think not signing yoro would have result in his not signing Yoro, and MAYBE McTominay staying. Which is another reason i don't criticise it.

So 2 CBs max is needed? Lmao ok

I’m hoping Yoro becomes a first choice standard. I don’t think you win a league with Martinez, as much as I love a lot about him, he is quite mistake prone. It doesn’t seem to get talked about as much, probably because he’s a fan favourite due to the good things he does and his fighter attitude - which is probably fair enough to a point. Maguire and Martinez are good options to be backup in that scenario.

A lot of the people who would defend the Yoro signing are the same people who say we should only sign players who want to play for us. There was an alternative here. Try and agree a deal with him for a free transfer in January. If he chose someone else, fine. You no longer have your player who wasn’t very interested in the first place and you move onto another target.

For me, £60m on Yoro is the signing you make when you have a strong 11 and you can afford to use your resources on having replacements ready for a few years down the line. Similar to the Højlund signing. I’d prefer adding potential on top of a solid foundation instead of the hybrid mix we have now that is messy in places (especially left back and centre forward) and potential. I thought it was looking better but I don’t know anymore (last night was depressing to watch bar 30 seconds) and as another poster put it, it’s exhausting.

Also on the topic of 5 centre backs and needing to sign 2 more in the summer. There isn’t anything to suggest Maguire will be going is there? Surely there will be someone in the U21’s at centre back to be the 5th option to replace the role Evans has, which should never have been as big as it was last season.

OK Yoro is magnificent value and is our most important signing. There was absolutely no better way that money could have been spent.

I best remember to not question the clubs fantastic transfer business again.

Glad you've finally come round on such a reasonable argument.

Vicario will turn into prime Oliver Kahn as standard, and with the state of our attack/Bruno we'll be lucky to get 1.

You should get onto Arteta to break up the Saliba/Gabriel partnership ASAP.

Cool, we should just tell the players to be great, never injured and that we should go out of the domestic comps early. This squad management stuff is easy, eh.